Spring RTS Engine

Trying to play for my first time...
Now, I'm not computer illiterate - I'm quite good with them, infact, so if its an easy not super super nerdy fix (cuz yeah I am a nerd :D) I could do it
Heres what happened
Im not sure what the problem is, this could be a problem with the mod...
If this is in the wrong spot please excuse me and move it :)
Installed Spring
the Spring Downloader...
Used spring downloader to get "Latest Stable Version" of Complete Annihilation.
It is version 4761
I go to Single Player mode, choose that ^^^ mod and add one bot.
I press start and a big picture pops up with some info on it and some words run across
Then it closes off to the "Spring Lobby" program, and says there was and error and that it was added to the log...
Here is the log - note I tried playing this 3 times so I'm not sure if it's what you need:
LogOutput initialized.
Spring 0.79.1.1 (0.79.1.1-0-gbdbc2b9{@}-cmake-tdm)
Available log subsystems: mapinfo, CollisionVolume, unit, VFS-detail, VFS, ArchiveScanner, Sound
Enabled log subsystems: Sound
Enable or disable log subsystems using the LogSubsystems configuration key
or the SPRING_LOG_SUBSYSTEMS environment variable (both comma separated).
[CMyMath::Init] CPU SSE mask: 96, flags:
SSE 1.0: 1, SSE 2.0: 0
SSE 3.0: 0, SSSE 3.0: 0
SSE 4.1: 0, SSE 4.2: 0
SSE 4.0A: 0, SSE 5.0A: 0
using streflop SSE FP-math mode, CPU supports SSE instructions
default config file: C:\Documents and Settings\Imran\Local Settings\Application Data\springsettings.cfg
using configuration source "C:\Documents and Settings\Imran\Local Settings\Application Data\springsettings.cfg"
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+; 735MB RAM, 1801MB pagefile
Using read-write data directory: C:\Program Files\Spring\
Using read-only data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\Imran\My Documents\Spring\
Using read-only data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Spring\
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Spring\maps
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Spring\base
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Spring\mods
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Spring\packages
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\Imran\My Documents\Spring\maps
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\Imran\My Documents\Spring\base
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\Imran\My Documents\Spring\mods
Scanning: C:\Documents and Settings\Imran\My Documents\Spring\packages
Scanning: C:\Program Files\Spring\maps
Scanning: C:\Program Files\Spring\base
Scanning: C:\Program Files\Spring\mods
Scanning: C:\Program Files\Spring\packages
Video mode set to 1024 x 768 / 32 bit
[ 0] SDL: 1.2.10
[ 0] GL: 1.1 2.40.103
[ 0] GL: S3 Graphics, Incorporated
[ 0] GL: ProSavage/Twister
[ 0] GLEW: 1.4.0
[ 0] Testing mode enabled; game over disabled.
[ 0] Connecting to local server
[ 0] Starting demo recording
[ 0] Using map Battle for PlanetXVII-v01.smf
[ 0] Recording demo demos/local_20090617_144642_Battle for PlanetXVII-v01_0.79.1.sdf
[ 0] Using script Random enemies
[ 0] Using mod Complete Annihilation stable-4761
[ 0] Using mod archive ca-r4761.sdz
[ 0] Became player 0 (team 0, allyteam 0)
[ 0] Sound: OpenAL info:
[ 0] Sound: Vendor: Creative Labs Inc.
[ 0] Sound: Version: 1.1
[ 0] Sound: Renderer: Software
[ 0] Sound: AL Extensions: EAX EAX2.0 EAX3.0 EAX4.0 EAX5.0 EAX3.0EMULATED EAX4.0EMULATED AL_EXT_OFFSET AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE
[ 0] Sound: ALC Extensions: ALC_ENUMERATE_ALL_EXT ALC_ENUMERATION_EXT ALC_EXT_CAPTURE ALC_EXT_EFX
[ 0] Sound: Device: Generic Software
[ 0] Sound: Available Devices:
[ 0] Sound: Generic Software
[ 0] Sound: CSound(): Sucessfully parsed 4 SoundItems from gamedata/sounds.lua
[ 0] Parsing unit icons
[ 0] Parsing definitions
[ 0] could not load buildOption data: missing file
[ 0] WARNING: removed novaichthy unitDef, missing cob script
[ 0] WARNING: removed the "novaichthy" entry from the "concept_factory" build menu
[ 0] Loading all definitions: 1.250000
[ 0] shadows disabled or required OpenGL extension missing
[ 0] Loading map informations
[ 0] Opening map file
[ 0] Loading Map
[ 0] Loading detail textures
[ 0] Creating overhead texture
[ 0] Creating ground shading
[ 0] Loading tile file
[ 0] Reading tiles
[ 0] Reading tile map
[ 0] Spring 0.79.1.1 (0.79.1.1-0-gbdbc2b9{@}-cmake-tdm) has crashed.
[ 0] Exception: Access violation (0xc0000005)
[ 0] Exception Address: 0x00000000
[ 0] DLL information:
[ 0] 0x00400000 spring
[ 0] 0x7c900000 ntdll
[ 0] 0x7c800000 kernel32
[ 0] 0x10000000 DevIL
[ 0] 0x77c10000 MSVCRT
[ 0] 0x01c40000 ILU
[ 0] 0x77dd0000 ADVAPI32
[ 0] 0x77e70000 RPCRT4
[ 0] 0x68b20000 GLU32
[ 0] 0x5ed00000 OPENGL32
[ 0] 0x77f10000 GDI32
[ 0] 0x77d40000 USER32
[ 0] 0x73760000 DDRAW
[ 0] 0x73bc0000 DCIMAN32
[ 0] 0x76c90000 IMAGEHLP
[ 0] 0x6fbc0000 mingwm10
[ 0] 0x7c9c0000 SHELL32
[ 0] 0x77f60000 SHLWAPI
[ 0] 0x71ab0000 WS2_32
[ 0] 0x71aa0000 WS2HELP
[ 0] 0x01c60000 SDL
[ 0] 0x76b40000 WINMM
[ 0] 0x7c340000 MSVCR71
[ 0] 0x66fc0000 freetype6
[ 0] 0x61b80000 zlib1
[ 0] 0x6ed80000 glew32
[ 0] 0x6b180000 vorbisfile
[ 0] 0x63e00000 vorbis
[ 0] 0x01cb0000 ogg
[ 0] 0x01cd0000 OpenAL32
[ 0] 0x773d0000 comctl32
[ 0] 0x5d090000 comctl32
[ 0] 0x5ad70000 uxtheme
[ 0] 0x10d00000 GameHook
[ 0] 0x09570000 lgscroll
[ 0] 0x78130000 MSVCR80
[ 0] 0x77690000 NTMARTA
[ 0] 0x76f60000 WLDAP32
[ 0] 0x774e0000 ole32
[ 0] 0x71bf0000 SAMLIB
[ 0] 0x69500000 nbicdnt
[ 0] 0x71a50000 mswsock
[ 0] 0x662b0000 hnetcfg
[ 0] 0x71a90000 wshtcpip
[ 0] 0x76c30000 WINTRUST
[ 0] 0x77a80000 CRYPT32
[ 0] 0x77b20000 MSASN1
[ 0] 0x72d20000 wdmaud
[ 0] 0x72d10000 msacm32
[ 0] 0x77be0000 MSACM32
[ 0] 0x77bd0000 midimap
[ 0] 0x73f10000 dsound
[ 0] 0x77c00000 VERSION
[ 0] 0x76fd0000 CLBCATQ
[ 0] 0x77120000 OLEAUT32
[ 0] 0x77050000 COMRes
[ 0] 0x73ee0000 KsUser
[ 0] 0x0a720000 wrap_oal
[ 0] 0x59a60000 DBGHELP
[ 0] Stacktrace:
[ 0] (0) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x00000000]
[ 0] (1) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x006746C9]
[ 0] (2) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x00674EBD]
[ 0] (3) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x0067071D]
[ 0] (4) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x00673431]
[ 0] (5) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x0064747E]
[ 0] (6) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x0042C1A9]
[ 0] (7) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x00471352]
[ 0] (8) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x004716AB]
[ 0] (9) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x008BA225]
[ 0] (10) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x008C3954]
[ 0] (11) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x008B900C]
[ 0] (12) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x008B91F6]
[ 0] (13) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x0095EB88]
[ 0] (14) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x0040124B]
[ 0] (15) C:\Program Files\Spring\spring.exe [0x004012B8]
[ 0] (16) C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll(RegisterWaitForInputIdle+0x49) [0x7C816D4F]
Thats it - I really hope you can help me
EDIT : Just thought of something that may help
This is all f***ed up maybe.
I instaleld Evolution RTS and ran the game from there
So wouldn't CA not be installed there? Because it has separate folders from Spring?
Should I just uninstall EVERYTHING spring...
Reinstall Spring, and spring downloader
Then from spring downloader install CA?
Or what?
God I hate my self sometimes doing stupid crap like this >_>
Time to go blow off some steam on CoD

Not sure what the problem is, but I have translated the stack trace for you.
http://planetspring.free.fr/spring/stac ... 83600.html

Possibly it could be a graphics driver issue. This sounds like a very old graphics card to me:

[ 0] SDL: 1.2.10
[ 0] GL: 1.1 2.40.103
[ 0] GL: S3 Graphics, Incorporated
[ 0] GL: ProSavage/Twister

Minimum requirement is GeForce 4 I think.

Well...
Yes it is quite old but I have been able to run games higher than that
Kind of crappily, yes...
But I don't think that is the problem
Thanks for the response - and sorry if it does turn out to be the problem.
More help is appreciated.
I noticed it did this with another mod so i do not believe it is the mod
It has more to do with spring itself!

Prosavage seems to be released around 2000-2001 and is an integrated graphics chip. Integrated graphics are very weak compared to real graphics cards, so you will need a fairly recent one to play Spring. My guess is absolutely max 5 years old. I think there will be many newer ones too, less than 3 years old, that will still not run Spring...

Still dont think my card is the problem - I have played many games that are newer - Trackmania, Emporer, Goliath - all without too many problems....
And considering the lower spec req of spring I am pretty sure that this is not the problem
Would like a second opinion - no offense, thanks for the help
Buying a new graphics card is not an option currently - I'm still young, jobless, and get allowance.
IF this arises, could I get a good card for less than 100?
That would only take me 6 monthes to save up for >_>

Maybe I should keep my mouth shut then :)

But the crash points to glCompressedTexImage2D and:

"glCompressedTexImage2D is available only if the GL version is 1.3 or greater"

Your GL seems to be version 1.1.

Do you have the latest drivers?

Updated to newest - still not working
Note the problem arises after "Loading Tile Map"
and heres the part of the error message :
[ 0] Reading tile map
[ 0] Spring 0.79.1.1 (0.79.1.1-0-gbdbc2b9{@}-cmake-tdm) has crashed.
So maybe uninstall / reinstall..?
Download a new map...?
IDK, just throwing out suggestions - not sure about anything right now as I'm new to this game
Any help is appreciated
In the case this problem just DOES not go away
Any one know any other good 3D RTS games?
Too sad - this one looked beautiful T_T

the games you mentioned arent opengl.

Spring doesnt have the same requirements as other games (based on looks) if your gfx card doesnt support the right opengl drivers chances are spring wont run or wont run well regardless if your gfx card can run other games well.

Edited...
Oh f***.
My card doesnt support OpenGL
Im too poor to buy a new card
Anyone know some 3D RTS that would work x_X
God I hate my parents not letting me get a job
Any good graphics cards for <$50

I bought my XFX 7600 GT in October 2007 for $50 from newegg.com. I still use it. I think you'll have no problems finding something even cheaper at this point.

/wrists
My dad doesn't let me buy computer stuff online
I'd be buying Microcenter
Any good cards you know of

lay down the law with your parents; its time to take that next step into manhood.

im guessing if they won't let you have a job, it's for one of two reasons...

1) because they have very, very high hopes for you... a job would distract you from your studies, let you mingle with girls (the outrage!) and give you a slice of the personal freedom pie that they arent quite ready to serve you. in this case, just tell them you are joining "3d chess club" at school, that should suffice to present a new card as a necessity.

2) because you are a really bad kid, the last time you had $20 to your name, you bought some rocks and a boxcutter and held a bus hostage during rush hour. in this case, stress the fact that if they get you a graphics card, you'll be spending more time at home and less time hanging around street corners in baggy trousers.

also : you can for sure get a graphics card for $50 or less for an AGP/PCI slot that will put your current card to shame. good luck lil bro!

Probably the first option; the last time I had 60$ I bought a $30 laser mouse on sale from $60 and a 15$ keyboard on sale from $25.
Still, with cutting the grass, getting allowance I could probably get $50
in a month (Sorry about the exaggeration)
I have to cut the grass about 1 time a week - is $40
Then allowance = enough for a $50 card in one week! Yay.
Now, I'm stuck between these 3 cards :
1. http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0312514
2. http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0304472
3. http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0307775
Guys - I want lots of opinions!
Give me the number of the card you think best and why you think so!
Thanks so much for helping - time to dump this trashy card.
Also, I think my current card is a DDR2 and I have extra RAM on it - if it does turn out to DDR2 could I take it off and put it in my new card?
That'd be so niiiice
Thanks guys again... I am set now.
When it comes to electronics, if I say "I'm gonna buy that"
I will...
I wondered about getting a PSP for 6 monthes then just told my self "Yes I will" and in 2 monthes I had one.
I'll have this new card so quick...
Heck, since my dad will probably call it a "Good investment", who knows maybe he'll pitch in $10 :D
Thanks so much guys.
EDIT:
Damn.
Am I stupid? Or how will this work?
My video card is integrated, right?
So would I have the original AND the outs from the new card on the back?
Also, would I have to take off my RAM expansion things and put them on the new card, or would they stay where they are?
Note, I have 2 of them :
Heres one of em :
http://www.rhinocustomcomputers.com/rhi ... ts_id=1062
Still trying to find the other one....
Help please :D
ANOTHER EDIT:
How will I know what cards are compatible with my old PC?
Actually its not that old
I've got my computer open right now so I can tell yall some stuff if you wanna know
But I gotta go in 1 hour of this posting time
MORE EDIT!:
I checked my PC : I have one AGP and 2 free PCI slots - will those cards work with my PCI slots? The sites says they are PCIe
Also, how to be sure my power supply can handle it?
Sorry for so many questions!
But I think with the many good people here I'll get a nice straight answer
EDIT ZOMFG:
Wow. /suicide
I am smart enough to read those cards won't work with my PC..
Godammit.
So now...
I am stuck with either AGP or PCI.
Here are my new choices:
1. http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0308102
2. http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0298083
3. http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0305902
SO between THOSE cards.
3 Qustions...
1 Which is best.
2 Will my old RAM expansions or whatever they are called work
3 What are the specific pluses for each
So AGAIN
THANKS SOOOO MUCH FOR ANYONE WHO CAN ANSWER ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS!
THANK YOOOOOOOOOU!

before you buy a card, make sure your old mainboard has PCIe. also i would recommend Nvidia and not ati cause many ati-users report problems playing spring with it...


edit: just read your post in detail. this wont work, you have PCI but not PCIe, you better get an AGP-card

Unfortunately MicroCenter has a pretty horrible selection of AGP cards to choose from. I just looked and they still have some FX5xxx series cards that should be burned at the stake. Beyond that there are some NVidia 6200 cards left under $50. The thing is though, for roughly the same price you could get an HD3650 from Newegg.com if you can work some mojo on your parents.

$56.99 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814102814
This 3650 is a far better performance/price deal than the 6200 if you can get it.

$39.99 after MIR
http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0308103
That is the best 6200 model they have.

They have two other 6200's...A 512mb model that has a slower core (bad), and a PNY model with slower memory (bad).

Ack - Sorry
There are 2 sites my dad REFUSES to buy online from : E-Bay and Newegg...
That is some mojo noone could do
Hell Chuck Norris couldn't do that
Any other sites (My dad is the one with the credit card - you know what i mean D: )
Thanks 'neway for looking out for me and trying to help me not get scammed :D
What about geeks.com
My dad loves that place (LOL NERRRRD)

Why no newegg? That's like hating puppies and ice cream!

Puppies N' Ice Cream is my favorite flavor.

imranh101 wrote:What about geeks.com
My dad loves that place (LOL NERRRRD)

Geeks.com is even worse than MicroCenter for this. The only somewhat decent AGP card they have is a 6200 for $61.99 (compare to MicroCenter above).

What about TigerDirect? The prices aren't as good as Newegg but there's some options.

HD2600 Pro for $59.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... eviewStart

TigerDirect also has some NVidia cards better than the 6200 MicroCenter has (7300Gt, 7600GS, 6800Ultra, 7800GS) - but I won't recommend them because they are all overpriced for some reason. Maybe the newer NVidia AGPs were produced in smaller batches. I recall there was a 7600GT AGP but it was almost impossible to find even when it was brand new. NVidia did give up on AGP before ATI did so that may be why.

Just for reference the fastest AGP that is available:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814102730
At this point I wouldn't recommend it simply because the extra money is better saved for a new system and it's more power than your XP 2200+ needs.

An integrated video card will have it's own output along the motherboard's I/O panel. After installing a new card you'll have 1 or 2 new outputs from the card, right behind the AGP slot, (there should be a small metal strip currently there that you will remove).

The RAM you linked has nothing to do with your video card. That's your system RAM. If you look at your infolog it shows 735MB system RAM. This is really 768MB and the rest is being eaten by your integrated video to use as VRAM. You'll get this 32MB back if you are using an expansion card and you have disabled the onboard video from the BIOS. Since you are on an Athlon XP you don't have the option of dual-channel DDR. As a result you do not have to upgrade both RAM modules at once if you ever do so (but you should still keep them the same speed, even if different sizes). You have 512 + 256 now. You could do 512 + 512 (not worth the cost), 512 + 1024, or 1024 + 1024. Of course, before you do anything you should take a look at your motherboard's manual if you still have it to read up on what it supports.

I feel your pain. I only had three games for my Mega Drive and my parents only let me rent some from the video shop when I was good (i.e. not often) and I was never allowed to buy any and they DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY POCKET MONEY!! Note that I had to win said Mega Drive in a Funday Times competition, otherwise I wouldn't have had a console at all! >;'(

Do you have an aversion to Starcraft? That has quite a lot of depth and will get your APM up while you save for your new l33t graphics card >8D