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Custom Formations 2
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 23:12
by Jazcash
I know some players been using this: http://spring.jobjol.nl/show_file.php?id=1680 and found it helpful.
However, the author says to hold the "Meta key". yet, I have tried every key on my keyboard and it's obvious my keyboard has no "Meta key".
Could someone with knowledge figure out how to use this and change it to a key more existent? Buckets of gold cookies will follow.
Niobium wrote:A wild update appears ! (and rezzes the thread)
v3.3:
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- Fixed possibility of lines exiting the map, which could mangle orders or prevent them being issued.
- Clicking and dragging from a guard command will begin a move formation line.
- The control key modifier will now cause units to move at the slowest units speed for formations.
As usual the latest version can be found at
the widget database.
Important to update due to the first change, the bug is reasonably rare in general use but for formations near the map edge (often with air units) it is more common.
The second change is for when your cursor is over an allied unit, which will turn your cursor into a guard command instead of the default move, the change allows you to start a move formation by dragging that guard command, which lets you do move formations without focusing on making sure you click the ground and not a unit. Great when you are in a rush.
The third change brings custom formations closer to spring functionality with the ability to slow down faster units in a group, but with all the usual formation goodness, works for any command. Also fixes previously-slowed units continuing to be slow on further orders.
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 23:18
by YHCIR
JAZCASH wrote: yet, I have tried every key on my keyboard and it's obvious my keyboard has no "Meta key".
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Hold space.
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 23:19
by very_bad_soldier
I only know that Meta-key can be configured by yourself (uikeys.txt?). By default it is SPACE afaik.
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 23:24
by Jazcash
Hmm, I'm using Beh's keys. Space isn't doing it for me :<
Update: Tried using old keys again, still not working.
Could somebody that can actually get this working post?
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 23:38
by very_bad_soldier
Hm, works for me.
You have to select some units. Hit 'Attack'. Hold Space and draw a line while left-clicking.
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 00:32
by Jazcash
Ok, it works now. It's cause I was right clicking instead of left clicking. I presumed it would be the same as usual but with a key bind...
Thanks.
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 01:20
by MidKnight
META = START/COMMAND key. Take THAT, das keyboard users!
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 14:40
by AF
why on earth are we calling it the meta key? Lets call ti the bannana key and let our end users flail about in frustration, oh wait they already are
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 20 Apr 2009, 17:49
by CarRepairer
"Where's the Meta key?" can now replace "Where's the Any key?"
or "Where's the Return key?
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 22 Jun 2009, 20:50
by ginekolog
both widgets v1 or v2 crash on new spring.. many players get this :/
[ 54918] Slasher is being attacked
[ 54993] LuaUI::RunCallIn: error = 2, MouseRelease, [string "E:\Program Files\TASpring\LuaUI\Widgets\uni..."]:710: attempt to index local 'next_node' (a nil value)
[ 55088] LuaUI::RunCallIn: error = 2, MouseRelease, [string "E:\Program Files\TASpring\LuaUI\Widgets\uni..."]:710: attempt to index local 'next_node' (a nil value)
[ 55121] LuaUI::RunCallIn: error = 2, MouseRelease, [string "E:\Program Files\TASpring\LuaUI\Widgets\uni..."]:710: attempt to index local 'next_node' (a nil value)
[ 55367] LuaUI::RunCallIn: error = 2, MouseRelease, [string "E:\Program Files\TASpring\LuaUI\Widgets\uni..."]:710: attempt to index local 'next_node' (a nil value)
[ 55368] 5 errors deep in LuaUI, disabling...
This is a must have widget ofc :)
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 23 Jun 2009, 08:24
by Niobium
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 25#p358125
See that post of mine. Pretty sure that the no next node / crash on mouse release bug is solved.
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 24 Jun 2009, 13:31
by Jools
CarRepairer wrote:"Where's the Meta key?" can now replace "Where's the Any key?"
or "Where's the Return key?
I thought meta was the escape key, didn't some older computers actually have this key?
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 24 Jun 2009, 14:10
by ginekolog
If this ver works well why not uploading it to spring downloader?
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 24 Jun 2009, 18:40
by manolo_
he has to be the one that upped cf2 to springdownloader or ask very_bad_soldier
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 24 Jun 2009, 20:54
by very_bad_soldier
Done... Feel free to bug me for an account though to be able to update it yourself...
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 16:44
by very_bad_soldier
Is CustomFormations1 hereby deprecated and can totally replaced by CustomFormations2? I would purge CF1 from SpringDownloader if so...
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 21:35
by Niobium
Customformations2 was rebuilt from the latest version of customformations1. It includes all functionality, plus additional fixes. All additional features are optional via having to hold meta key. So I would say yes
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 22:09
by Wisse
So where can one read about those "extra features", what they do and where they're bound?
I checked .lua rly fast and couldn't see anything that would help me (comments and stuff, I can't read code very fast).
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 04:40
by Niobium
Wisse wrote:So where can one read about those "extra features", what they do and where they're bound?
I checked .lua rly fast and couldn't see anything that would help me (comments and stuff, I can't read code very fast).
Good point, they aren't explained anywhere in the file. I guess I just assumed people would know.
Anyway, customformations 2 will let you do all the usual things customformations 1 does, as well as letting you draw attack lines/unload lines. Because click-and-drag with attack/unload is already used by spring for box-attack and area-unload, you have to hold down the meta key (Default is spacebar) and then click-drag to start drawing the attack/unload line.
Other things are that it doesn't give orders in mid air, or underground, doesn't crash in new spring, and doesn't factor in units that can't execute the order when drawing the line (i.e. the line won't have holes in it if certain units cant attack/unload/move/etc)
Re: Custom Formations 2
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 20:29
by TheFatController
This version will probably go in BA next release btw, if there's any other feature you want to add and have been putting off
