Spring RTS Engine

Is there enyway to change the settings for:

Swapping the mouse click buttons: ie to make a unit walk i want to click left instead of right

Inverting the way you zoom in or out ie when i roll the current zoom in button i will zoom out and vice-versa

These may seem small but seeing as i play alot of other RTS that use these settings, its really turning me off to play as i keep clicking the wrong click or zoom in wrong and when i get the hang of it, i do it wrong in other RTS

Do you actually want to swap the buttons and make right click be the order you have selected? What games do that?

You can change the mouse wheel speed to a negative number if you don't want to think of it in terms of up/down for only Spring.

What i mean is that in most RTS, to move a unit you have to left click, while in Sring you have to right click, which is really annoying as i keep left clicking to move.

So how would i change this scroll speed to negetive then?

But that's using left click for both default commands and commands from a menu, right? Not the reverse of spring but a completely different system.

It should be in the settings program. If it isn't, the settings file is in documents and settings\username\local settings\application data

Ok ive switched the scrollwheel speed. Thanks for that

So what your saying is that the right click for unit movement is an inbuilt feature of spring? For most actions in this game you must right click while in other games is left click while deselecting in spring is left click and in most other RTS its right click. I was just wondering if you could swap them

What other RTSs are you talking about, specifically? Let me explain the design plan of the spring controls a bit better:

Left click is used to select units, or to deselect.
When you pick an order off the menu, you left click to use it.

Right click does the default order of a unit. move on an empty spot, guard a friend, attack an enemy

Command and conquer, Empire earth, populous the beginning, cossacks, starcraft, warzone 2100. They all use the left click for the default order of a unit as you call it. I was just wondering i there is a way to change this default move order in Spring as left click.

Acropolips wrote:Command and conquer, Empire earth, populous the beginning, cossacks, starcraft, warzone 2100. They all use the left click for the default order of a unit as you call it. I was just wondering i there is a way to change this default move order in Spring as left click.

Incorrect. *craft use rightclick as the default order. Spring is identical.

Right click to move in C&C3, and my memory is faded on starcraft and supcom but I got a wiki result saying starcraft was right click for attacking at least, and I think right click was springish in supcom (and google agrees).

Edit: Thanks car. So that's three major RTSs right there.

I dont have c&c3. Only c&c1, red alert 1, tib sun, red alert 2 and generals. Theyre all left click. And i havent played starcraft for quite a while so it slipped my memory XD

So is there enyway to do this?

Not really.

Oh

You can play the entire game without right clicking.

Left click to select a unit.
Left click on the order button you want it to do.
Left click where you want to do it.

But right click lets you do a default commonly used order depending on what unit you've selected and where you click, so you can skip step 2 most of the time. So if you select almost any unit, rightclick on a an empty spot, that becomes a move.

In TA the "left click interface" was default.

It caused me great trouble to get accustomed to Spring's "right click interface", when I switched to Spring. It took me very long to get used to it, and even longer to not be confused when switching between TA and Spring. Even nowadays I have moments of doubt when I want to deselect a unit without canceling order:

- right click in TA deselect all
- right click in Spring cancel current order and replace it with default order to mouse pointer
- let click in empty area in Spring deselect all
- left click in empty are in TA, hmm, forgot, but I think it's default order.

I lost tons of order queue because of the confusion.

I thought left click was good until i understand that when i scroll a screen with arrows keys & try to Lclick to make a move action i often get a selection box cause when you're doing this fast you still hold one of the arrow keys, so i loose a selection of a unit. Thus I realized that right click mode is better than the left click mode. I relearned fast enough & even changed Lclick mode to Rclick in OTA. But personally i still don't understand why Spring does not allow user to select between two modes.

Yeh, if possible with game mechanics, it should be added