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Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 17:22
by NOiZE
A new Release of BA!!!!
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- Raised LosMipLevel and AirLosMipLevel for a great reduction in lag
- Fixed Krogoth vlaunch misfiring
- Fixed Liche autofiring
- Fixed Recluse range
- Fixed some gfx corruption in bomber explosions
- Fixed the 'no more mexs to upgrade' notification on the mex upgrader gadget being sent to every player
- Added moho exploiter fix widget
- Added proximitypriority tags to some high trajectory cannons so they prefer further away units
- Added collidefriendly=0 to some aircraft weapons to stop them hitting eachother when tightly packed
- Added some custom textures to arm and core missile trails
- Added some weapon gfx effect improvements (Zeus, Bantha)
- Upgraded defense range widget
- Fixed take reminder widget (sends the proper /take command now)
- Added the 'no duplicate orders' widget
- Removed an unused 'FORT' category from the SAM
- Removed seismic sig from stumpies
- Reduced the volume of metalmakers on/off sounds
- Beamer turret rotation speed increased, targetmoveerror reduced slightly
- Double LLT tweaked so each laser can find different targets
- Double LLT now slightly more energy efficient than two llts (-60 vs -80 drain on constant fire)
- Dragons claw, Dragons maw no longer attempt to attack aircraft
- Added 'DragonsDisguise' gadget, this can stop units from noticing dragons claws/dragons maws until they've popped up
- Blade speed increased (~5 to 8), renamed from 'Heavy' to 'Rapid Assault'
- Zeus buildtime lowered by ~15%
- Fido speed increased by 15%
- Raised burst DPS on SAM, packo slightly
- Chainsaw & Eradicator now deal good burst damage at range rather than low damage over time.
- Screamer/Mercury now have a fire delay button, you can specify per turret how many seconds to wait before firing once an enemy is spotted (0-5)
- Reduced the chain explode factor on the lighter tech 3 mech deaths
- Kargs and Razorbacks can now target features (ie, can eventually shoot through corpses & dragons teeth)
- Razorbacks acceleration and turret speed increased slightly
- Raised the Arm Vanguard HP (18000)
- Juggernaut main cannons now no longer avoid features (it wouldn't attempt to fire through corpses before)
- Lowered Juggernaut HP (300k)
- Bantha hand cannon dps increased
- Increased buildtime on Bantha, Juggernaut, Krogoth
- Increased workertime on gantries slightly
- Reduced the energypershot on Vulcan & Buzzsaw (constant fire: vulcan -18k, Buzzsaw -21k)
- Bantha is now amphibious
With many thanks to TheFatController to making this release possible!
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Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 18:53
by MR.D
Looks like a nice set of changes.
Has anyone fixed the game "clock" widget ?
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 21:05
by [Krogoth86]
Finally looks like some "All-Time-Flaws" are getting fixed like the AA damage of Eradicators and so on. It's also good to see you agreed on bombers needing the nocollide tag...
I'm sceptical about you making the Bantha amphibious though. Might bork things imo if you don't make the Krog amphibious too (sorry if you already did)...
I like things like the delay for Screamers - I might include that in MA too as it always was annoying that they fire on a target that most certainly will get killed anyway...

Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 21:45
by BeefofAges
Yeah I think the Krog already was amphibious.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 22:18
by Evil4Zerggin
According to modinfo, Packo/SAM DPS actually decreased slightly?
Also there's still the flightTime bug. From the engine:
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weaponDef->flighttime == 0? (int) (range / projectileSpeed + 25): weaponDef->flighttime
became
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weaponDef->flighttime == 0
? (int) (range / projectileSpeed + 25 * weaponDef->selfExplode)
: weaponDef->flighttime
so unless you specify an explicit flightTime, missile weapons run out of fuel before max range.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 22:28
by el_matarife
FatController + Noize is an epic combination.
Any reason not to add feature targeting to a few more units? Specifically I am thinking T1 arty, T2 vlaunch units, maybe a few other units with big AOE?
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 23:19
by TheFatController
BeefofAges wrote:Yeah I think the Krog already was amphibious.
Yeah Bantha got moved onto the same moveclass as the Krogoth it was to equal stuff up.
Evil4Zerggin wrote:Also there's still the flightTime bug.
If anyone can give any other examples of missiles that work incorrectly they could post them here
As for the SAM/Packo it does appear that's the case

they should do more burst damage which will be better vs tech 1 bombers but the overall dps has dropped slightly which wasn't apparent when testing, will have to see how it works out and if they need raising.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 00:43
by Evil4Zerggin
TheFatController wrote:If anyone can give any other examples of missiles that work incorrectly they could post them here
This affects all non-burnblow missile weapons (note this is based on weapontype; for example torpedoes still work fine). Missiles with low startVelocity suffer the most.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 03:50
by Pxtl
"burst dps" ? Huh?
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 04:01
by Dragoon
nice =)
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 17:45
by Non0c3
The jugg can't get to the enemy side on the map before being killed by berthas, and when it do it end dguned or there's no more enemy base.
Now it's even more a joke.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 17:46
by Pxtl
I don't think the Jugg was originally intended to be an offensive unit that would walk to the enemy base while taking fire the whole time.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 18:21
by Gota
I suggest capping BA's number of players per game to 8.Like it was a while back.
I tihnk in the long run the community of BA players will only benefit from it and will see an increase in good games and good players.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 18:33
by TheFatController
Pxtl wrote:I don't think the Jugg was originally intended to be an offensive unit that would walk to the enemy base while taking fire the whole time.
This.
Gota wrote:I suggest capping BA's number of players per game to 8.Like it was a while back.
I tihnk in the long run the community of BA players will only benefit from it and will see an increase in good games and good players.
This is an issue with hosts (especially autohosts) imo not the mod. I don't think every autohost should allow 16 player games tbh but they are fun as a rarity (especially with the new lag reduction).
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 18:56
by Gota
TBH,I think 8v8 games are no good.
Not as single games and not as part of a whole which comprises the BA players community.
Such big games discourage playing well,tend to have many players either not getting into the game or crashing/leaving in the middle.
I think a 8 player cap is a good compromise between "epicness" and good gameplay.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 19:29
by Pxtl
Can someone explain wtf they mean by "burst dps"? There are diffferent flavours of DPS? huh?
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 19:36
by Evil4Zerggin
Gota wrote:TBH,I think 8v8 games are no good.
Not as single games and not as part of a whole which comprises the BA players community.
Such big games discourage playing well,tend to have many players either not getting into the game or crashing/leaving in the middle.
I think a 8 player cap is a good compromise between "epicness" and good gameplay.
Get people to stop playing them then.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 19:39
by BaNa
Pxtl wrote:Can someone explain wtf they mean by "burst dps"? There are diffferent flavours of DPS? huh?
I think they mean that it does more damage in a quick burst, followed by a longer pause? If so, burst damage would be a better term, but meh.
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 19:49
by ginekolog
no buff to raven? still most useless T3 mech

and soo nice model-...
other changes seem nice though.gj
Re: Balanced Annihilation V6.6
Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 19:56
by Dragoon
ginekolog wrote:no buff to raven? still most useless T3 mech

and soo nice model-...
other changes seem nice though.gj
Yeh. the catapult is pretty useless. Since the Vanguard has just been buffed up by 8000hp, the catapult costs about 1000 more metal and has 1/3 of its hp.