Spring RTS Engine

Havok Physics and Animation Now Available for PC Game Developers
It is possible to add this to Spring engine ?

http://www.havok.com/content/view/618/108/
http://tryhavok.intel.com/

want. now.

Spring is open source you know ?
So include the binary-only Havok library is out of question.

confuse? it says its free to use without licence when selling under $10, $0 is under $10, right?

Why would we want this again?

Torrasque wrote:Spring is open source you know ?
So include the binary-only Havok library is out of question.

You can link to closed-source libraries under the GPL, hence why there are GPL apps that use DirectX etc.

Forboding Angel wrote:Why would we want this again?

Well, for those of us that happen to have a Cray supercomputer sitting around collecting dust...

Much like PhysX I believe.

If this was an FPS, sure, that'd be JAWSOME. But we're an RTS... Havok duz not compute.

Rts's have been using havok, but bla bla bla priority bla bla who's going to make it work bla bla performance? bla bla

you missed a bla

At present, Spring supports whatever platform you care to make it run on. If you decide to integrate Havok, then Spring will run on whatever Havok will run on and nothing more. In short, unnecessary and gay.

Felix the Cat wrote:

Torrasque wrote:Spring is open source you know ?
So include the binary-only Havok library is out of question.

You can link to closed-source libraries under the GPL, hence why there are GPL apps that use DirectX etc.

Right, I had a bit compulsif reaction when I thinked about linux user or bsd one.

El Capitano wrote:At present, Spring supports whatever platform you care to make it run on. If you decide to integrate Havok, then Spring will run on whatever Havok will run on and nothing more. In short, unnecessary and gay.

it works on linux and windows that's all (and maybe on intel mac with linux based os)

Thinking to linux is good but don't forget BSD plz

I think that Havok is totally useless in a RTS... I don't see a lot of units flying and bouncing on the ground when I play, so I don't want havok :)

Satirik wrote:

El Capitano wrote:At present, Spring supports whatever platform you care to make it run on. If you decide to integrate Havok, then Spring will run on whatever Havok will run on and nothing more. In short, unnecessary and gay.

it works on linux and windows that's all (and maybe on intel mac with linux based os)

Of course Havok works on Mac osx, how do you think Diablo3 with havok will work on mac if it doesn't

I assume it would desync with players not using Havok.

Unless of course it's packaged with the Spring install.

I'm all for it. Physics engines are cool and Spring basically lacks one at the moment.

You would need the havok source code to be able to use streflop for sync. Besides the license problem already mentioned.

What could be possible is integrating ODE (BSD license), any volunteers? :D

how about using a middleware then decide later which engine to use?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL_(software)

Tobi wrote:I assume it would desync with players not using Havok.

jcnossen wrote:You would need the havok source code to be able to use streflop for sync. Besides the license problem already mentioned.

how can you sync shader code at all? afaik the math ops in the gpu don't follow any precision standards yet...