Spring RTS Engine

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Not without some LUA tricks...

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yes i know, accident

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Well, be more specific. Do you mean if one building can act as multiple factories? Only if you reimplement the factory stuff in Lua. Do you mean building one menu entry and getting a buunch of units? Certainly, SWIW does that.

Couldn't you make a building with a big, open yardmap that, when built, spawns a bunch of factories within it's yardmap... factories that, when damaged or repaired, redirect the damage to the central factory unit?

Sure you could, if that's a good idea is a different question.

KDR_11k wrote:Well, be more specific. Do you mean if one building can act as multiple factories? Only if you reimplement the factory stuff in Lua. Do you mean building one menu entry and getting a buunch of units? Certainly, SWIW does that.

what i mean is a building, if i let it make a peewee 1 part of it opens and starts making a peewee, if i make a hammer and a peewee 2 parts open, 3 peewee's , 3 parts open ect....

what i mean is

KDR_11k wrote:Only if you reimplement the factory stuff in Lua.

I dont know why you'd want this though. Make more than one factory..?

squads don't exist in spring. I would not mind seeing this for gundam.

A reason to put this on training based rts games is that would be more realistic.


Imagine a medieval rts that has a building where you can build (train) archers.

In real life when you are on a school for example you dont need to wait for someone graduate to another person enter in the school and start studing. You can have many persons at the same school, at the same class, at the same time, with only 1 teacher in your class.


There is any rts game where you can construct multiple units at the same time with only one unit?? I dont remember any rts with this.

exdeath wrote:A reason to put this on training based rts games is that would be more realistic.

Generally a poor reason for a game mechanic.

In real life when you are on a school for example you dont need to wait for someone graduate to another person enter in the school and start studing. You can have many persons at the same school, at the same class, at the same time, with only 1 teacher in your class.

In real life it takes years to learn archery. In real life people dont appear from barracks, they are recruited from a population.

There is any rts game where you can construct multiple units at the same time with only one unit?? I dont remember any rts with this.

Dawn of War, SW:IW, at a stretch, Starcraft (zerg/scourge). In those, you order units as a group.

Spring:1944 also has squads - our infantry is built that way (ie you order a riflemen squad, you get 8-10 riflemen plus maybe a couple SMG soldiers (depending on your side) at once). This requres no changes to the factory itself, but it does require some lua work to spawn the appropriate squad when it's 'trigger unit' is built.

Battle Realms

unlike in most RTS games, the peasant worker unit is not just used for resource gathering and construction, but also for training into military units at training buildings. Thus, military buildings in Battle Realms are not used for making units, but for transforming and upgrading them.

Peasants are the only units the player can produce outright. Most of the buildings available are training structures where peasants are trained into a variety of other units. All the factions start off with 3 basic central training structures, which produce units along different paths of warfare, such as melee or ranged combat. In most cases, units can be trained at up to 3 structures to produce higher tiers of infantry.

Another difference in unit generation is that peasants are produced automatically, at no cost. However, the rate at which new peasants are produced is inversely proportional to the current population of the player's army and proportional to the number of housing, or Peasant Huts, the player has built.

The game is a lot of fun but it loses its edge later once you've built up an army and are just sending units on their way. It seems lacking something. Great graphics and units though.

yes, ZYMETH!!!!

CarRepairer wrote: The game is a lot of fun but it loses its edge later once you've built up an army and are just sending units on their way. It seems lacking something. Great graphics and units though.

this proves that you have never played battle realms~~

Saktoth wrote:

exdeath wrote:A reason to put this on training based rts games is that would be more realistic.

Generally a poor reason for a game mechanic.

With traning based rts games i am talking about, rts games like age of empires, warcraft, command and conquer, cossacks european wars....That are games where the building that you use to build units is a training center like building, so when building a unit its like if someone was training in this building to become a warrior, or a archer, or a rifleman...
This is not like TA where you just construct robots.

Saktoth wrote:

Exdeath wrote:In real life when you are on a school for example you dont need to wait for someone graduate to another person enter in the school and start studing. You can have many persons at the same school, at the same class, at the same time, with only 1 teacher in your class.

In real life it takes years to learn archery. In real life people dont appear from barracks, they are recruited from a population.

Its because in a rts game like age of empires, warcraft... the time is passing faster, that why the building units build so faster, and units are trained so faster. No one would make a rts where you would need to wait years to get a unit finished (trained). Another game that the ingame time is faster is the sims where 1 real life minute is 1 ingame hour.
Yes in real life people dont appear from baracks, they are recruited from population, but thats is the reason that in some rts games you have to build houses to increase your population to then build (train) units.

In real life more than one person can be trained at the same time in barracks or school. That is a reason of why someone would want to have this in their mod, that is to make their mod more realistic.

Saktoth wrote:

exdeath wrote:There is any rts game where you can construct multiple units at the same time with only one unit?? I dont remember any rts with this.

Dawn of War, SW:IW, at a stretch, Starcraft (zerg/scourge). In those, you order units as a group.

I mean without ordering units as a group.

There is another unrealistic thing in some rts games: Imagine that someone need 10 years training to become a archer and in a rts game you can build (train) a archer in 1 minute. So 1 real-life minute = 10 ingame years. If after you finish this archer you choose them and you send a unit to some place, the distance that this unit will walk in 1 real life minutes is not the same distance that a soldier would walk in 10 real life years.

exdeath wrote:There is another unrealistic thing in some rts games: Imagine that someone need 10 years training to become a archer and in a rts game you can build a archer in 1 minute. So 1 real-life minute = 10 ingame years. If after you finish this archer you choose them and you send a unit to some place, the distance that this unit will walk in 1 real life minutes is not the same distance that a soldier would walk in 10 real life years.

I'll get right onto making an RTS where it takes 10 years of real-time to train a unit, and another RTS with time-compression where it only takes 1 minute, but the units can teleport anywhere on the map instantaneously and the whole war lasts 14 seconds.