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I believe that in a fundamental level, that is, the most simple form the universe can reach, regardeless of whenever there is a form of max simplicity or not, everthing (and, thus, also nothing) is composed of 2 diferent things, pretty much the binary language used by computers.

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Care to explain some more, so us mere mortals could understand too? Why would the fundamental base of the universe be binary? What are the two... errr... things?

Teutooni wrote:What?

Why?

Where?



Care to explain some more, so us mere mortals could understand too? Why would the fundamental base of the universe be binary? What are the two... errr... things?

The base of the universe is binary because it cannot be another thing. If you have one thing you dont have anything, because if there was no diference between any 2 points of the universe then the universe would be entirely irrelevant, and something entirely irrelevant to everthing doesnt exists. Anything that existed beyond 2 would be a combination of those 2, and thus not relevant for the fundament. I have no idea what the 2 things might be, our knoledge is too limited for us to go beyond this :)

Maybe you first need to learn spelling before attempting a theory of everything?

manored wrote:

Teutooni wrote:What?

Why?

Where?



Care to explain some more, so us mere mortals could understand too? Why would the fundamental base of the universe be binary? What are the two... errr... things?

The base of the universe is binary because it cannot be another thing. If you have one thing you dont have anything, because if there was no diference between any 2 points of the universe then the universe would be entirely irrelevant, and something entirely irrelevant to everthing doesnt exists. Anything that existed beyond 2 would be a combination of those 2, and thus not relevant for the fundament. I have no idea what the 2 things might be, our knoledge is too limited for us to go beyond this :)

What if something, or a lot of things are neutral? Then they wouldn't be one of 2 things. It could be something like an asymptote.

manored wrote:

Teutooni wrote:What?

Why?

Where?



Care to explain some more, so us mere mortals could understand too? Why would the fundamental base of the universe be binary? What are the two... errr... things?

The base of the universe is binary because it cannot be another thing. If you have one thing you dont have anything, because if there was no diference between any 2 points of the universe then the universe would be entirely irrelevant, and something entirely irrelevant to everthing doesnt exists. Anything that existed beyond 2 would be a combination of those 2, and thus not relevant for the fundament. I have no idea what the 2 things might be, our knoledge is too limited for us to go beyond this :)

I think the universe is far too complex to simplify like that, otherwise the scientists and philosophers would have a theory of everything. But we don't AFAIK. Full marks for trying though.

The universe is in binary at it's most fundimental level. The basic building blocks are all basically the same thing, and in any given spacial area, that thing is either present, or not present. That level of abstraction isn't fundamentally useful to understanding the universe though, because in formation the binary parts very very quickly form structures and forms. The universe, if it were to be equated to a computer, is a virtually infinate number of binary elements running many different programs in languages WAY WAY more advanced than our object oriented computer languages. Understanding the binary is useless because there is just too much of it for that to be possible, so we need to understand the more advanced code first, and we don't understand it yet.

To say occupation is binary is to forget quantum physics.

quantum physics was the only thing that proved rogue waves happen realistically on a daily basic killing off whales. SAVE THE WHALES ! Get them away from the rogue waves!

i haven't smoked enough weed to read this thread yet

Weed won't help, man. Seriously, I think this thread would read even worse stoned.

How can you speak of the universe when you live on earth..

a spec in the universe..

there are probably elements and all sorts of other stuff that is out there that we will never know..

You are not universe, emmanuel IS.

I still don't see why the universe should be 'binary'. Sure it's the simplest base, but it doesn't mean universe has to be like it. How about a base of 6 quarks and a few leptons? Or tiny oscillating strings for that matter, essentially having an infinite base.

Teutooni wrote:I still don't see why the universe should be 'binary'. Sure it's the simplest base, but it doesn't mean universe has to be like it. How about a base of 6 quarks and a few leptons? Or tiny oscillating strings for that matter, essentially having an infinite base.

Infinite? Try 11.

First, binary isn't the simplest base. Unary is.

Second, I already gave you the answer to all life's questions in a previous thread, http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtop ... 82#p266882

All matter is composed of sub-atomic particles called Teutons.

Here is a close-up:

Woah man, i just had a revelation. You know like Theres the space and theres like, planets 'n shit in the space, and inside the planet there's like humans , and inside the humans you can find these cells 'n shit, so like, what if inside the cells were another space and another world dude, like woah it would go around all over again! Its like i've discovered what the world is.

Infinite? Try 11.

No, it's definitely 42.

String theory may predict 11 dimensions, but you still have an infinite variety of strings.