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Pc gaming is not dying. Computers might have some disadvantages for gaming due to their great complexity, but this great complexity also allows it to have features consoles cannot have, such as greater customization possibilities.

Yearly topic rotation strikes again

Uh...shouldn't the title of the thread be "Pc game NOT dying"?

Topic is old. PC-Games are dead- so what? All things we still get are bad Console ports - i can´t wait those stuff to stop existing..

Remaing forces are onlineRPGs, Shooters and Strategygames, both because of controllproblems not consoleable..

Let´s face it the PC-Games never advanced any further, because the controlls(GUIs= didn´t develop on. TA was still the best GUI-Concept... for a strategy Games, there didn´t came anything after..

And the other interesting part of PC-Games (serious Storylines, with intersting Plots) died years ago too. PC is dead because it was way to ambitous, thinking it could upgrade it´s audience, which let´s face it consists mainly off dumb Morons who were never interested in anything besides the software equivalent of cheapgameshows & soapoperas. NO new Aera, no new Human, no new Entertaiment, just the same Bullshit now interactive- and easy to install. Somebody Lockhead this Thread from Orbit..

And the other interesting part of PC-Games (serious Storylines, with intersting Plots) died years ago too. PC is dead because it was way to ambitous, thinking it could upgrade it´s audience, which let´s face it consists mainly off dumb Morons who were never interested in anything besides the software equivalent of cheapgameshows & soapoperas. NO new Aera, no new Human, no new Entertaiment, just the same Bullshit now interactive- and easy to install. Somebody Lockhead this Thread from Orbit..

Well as if this had been different for console games...

If you ever want to have really fun - just insert a Papersuggestion for a Prototype to a bigger Company. You need just to put six words into the first sentence: New, revolutionary, ahead-of-time

- After that you can write what you want: BlaBlaBla, willing to invest half of the 50.000$ myself, have really interested & able people backing me up, etc.. forget it.. Thost three words finnish you, long before the Marketing Masterchief could make his Cross under the Disclosureagreement

But, let´s say the Truth, PC-Games never were a Good Place for Creative People, to much toollearning, to low time-effortpropabs, in higher numbers to many interests, people and egos involved. It is a bad payed work to live from, as long as you have no Ilusions about beeing just another littlewheel in Hollywood IIs Camera, it is a bad place to crunch, for the promised-day-to-come-where-your-project-will-get-the-chance...

Note that a majority of the pc developers who have announced that "PC gaming is dying" are just whiny about people not buying their games because they sucked.

Supreme Commander can't even surpass a free project by much and has too high system requirements
Unreal Tournament III is even unable to compete against its prequel
Crysis is just a tech demo with "omg trilogy" ambitions
ID Software fails at appealing to a large market (also competing too much with themselves)

They decide to blame it on two issues:

Piracy, which have existed since games have and it's suddenly now a huge problem that will kill the platform? Woah, you sure are going to convince someone with that. Crappy Intel graphic cards, well, buying a decent graphic card is much cheaper than buying a console.

The Truth is that you have to Apply to big Companys to get the Money nessescary for a todays Project. And those Companys are listening to -> Shareholders, Marketingman, Lawyers

In those Decissionsessions, there is usually one Gameproducer involved to defend something new- thats how all the sequels come to be. And it worx, look at all those suxessfull companys, none of the has ever done something new.. Best Example Blizzard.. they only hiquality recylce.. all the other Things to blame, are just very comfortable ways to avoid criticism on the central decission making..

PicassoCT wrote:Topic is old. PC-Games are dead- so what? All things we still get are bad Console ports - i can´t wait those stuff to stop existing..

Remaing forces are onlineRPGs, Shooters and Strategygames, both because of controllproblems not consoleable..

Let´s face it the PC-Games never advanced any further, because the controlls(GUIs= didn´t develop on. TA was still the best GUI-Concept... for a strategy Games, there didn´t came anything after..

And the other interesting part of PC-Games (serious Storylines, with intersting Plots) died years ago too. PC is dead because it was way to ambitous, thinking it could upgrade it´s audience, which let´s face it consists mainly off dumb Morons who were never interested in anything besides the software equivalent of cheapgameshows & soapoperas. NO new Aera, no new Human, no new Entertaiment, just the same Bullshit now interactive- and easy to install. Somebody Lockhead this Thread from Orbit..

The only genre that works really well on console but doesn't work well on PC is liniar invisiwall platformers. Basically games like resident evil, god of war, onimusha, ninja gaidien. in PC games you generally at least have to make your walls visible... I can't really explain it, but in PC games we expect a little more reality simulation than we do out of console games.

They have been saying PC is dead for years, but there has been no real hard evidence to support that. Most data I've seen suggests growth in the market, and as Newell says most independent market data (such as the NPD) don't take into account online sales. That means the sales and revenue of WOW, Steam, Gametap, and countless other products and services are not counted. You also need to take into account that the PC has huge penetration that makes the console market look like a joke in comparison. It just requires software makers to take advantage of this already established user base. PC gaming is more likely a growing market than a market in decline.

Simply put people will buy computers wether they play games or not, and theyll upgrade and buy new computers wether they play games or not. This makes computers unbeatable in the gaming arena because they can never die out, all it takes is for some snappy programmer to devise a great new game and its back again.

Whereas a console dies after a few years when the next console comes along, and that's all a console can really do...

Oo.
Well consoles are slowly becoming similair to computers in what they can do,at least for the users that only need films music and internet.
You upgrade a console just like a comp..

PCs are very popular as a primary gaming platform overseas. Also, judging from my recent TF2 matches, we have a fresh generation of PC FPS players on the way.

I think a more serious concern is: Is everything but the FPS genre dying?

Caydr wrote:PCs are very popular as a primary gaming platform overseas. Also, judging from my recent TF2 matches, we have a fresh generation of PC FPS players on the way.

I think a more serious concern is: Is everything but the FPS genre dying?

No, MMORPGs got a huge boost recently too. Strategy and adventure games are WAY down in the PC market from where they used to be though. PEOPLE ARE GETTING DUMBER! WHEEEE!!

Pff as if there will ever be a time where PC's wont be used to play games.

Hard to imagine ha...

Sending game ideas to a company is pointless, they throw them into the shredder without reading them (out of fear of being accused of ripping the design off even when it's just an obvious thing that they added to their game much earlier).

Also you do NOT need a big company for your game if you set your goals realistically. There's plenty of game designs that can be done without a 100 man team.

Muzic wrote:Pff as if there will ever be a time where PC's wont be used to play games.

there will be if mac keep expanding like they are now.

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:

Muzic wrote:Pff as if there will ever be a time where PC's wont be used to play games.

there will be if mac keep expanding like they are now.

ha ha ha