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Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 16 May 2008, 11:30
by AnniXa
yea remove that crap or repair it pl0x, i often get kicked cause it "say´s" i only got 1,2mhz or sometimes it say i got 1mhz!
thruth is i got 2x2,4 so plz repair it or remove it >.<
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 16 May 2008, 11:53
by koshi
you'd have to fix windows first:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888282/EN-US/
The second or third line of the Computer area is calculated by the kernel very early during the initialization of Windows. Computers that use processor power management features, such as Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) processor performance state technologies, may start with the processor running in a decreased performance state. This behavior reduces power consumption and avoids thermal problems until an ACPI-aware operating system can take control of these features. This initial speed setting is determined by the system designer and is controlled by the BIOS. When the system starts at a decreased performance state, the kernel performs the early CPU speed calculation before ACPI and the Windows processor driver have loaded. Therefore, the kernel incorrectly uses the reduced frequency rate to determine the maximum frequency of the processor.
As to multicores: those are not very relevant to performance atm, tho when that changes (soon hopefully) it would be a good idea to be able to present the figures in a more meaningful way to those cpu-speed fixaedt users. Lobby protocol now only allows a single integer. Adding an optional multiplier should do i guess
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 16 May 2008, 12:02
by AnniXa
ohkay i try this :O
ty^^
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 16 May 2008, 15:45
by imbaczek
multicores may not be relevant, but a sempron is much worse than a core2 on the same clock.
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 13:07
by reivanen
best would be just to read processor name from system. Dont know if this is possible for linux users, but in windows it is easy. It would tell much more about the performance if it says 1,6ghz pentium 4 or 1,6ghz core2duo instead of 1,6ghz in both cases.
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 13:54
by koshi
koshi wrote: Lobby protocol now only allows a single integer.
getting it on linux is no problem
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cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 13:55
by Peet
That gives the CPU speed in the model name, not the actual frequency though
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 14:05
by koshi
not always ofc, ie for another box of mine it is
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cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) processor
the current (as in possibly slowed by acpi) frequency you get with
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cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "cpu MHz"
cpu MHz : 1600.000
which is what we're doing in springlobby atm
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 16:59
by Auswaschbar
You can get maximum cpu-frequency like this:
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cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
1800000
But isn't it a bit senseless? You cannot tell how fast a cpu is based on MHz.
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 17:12
by koshi
Auswaschbar wrote:But isn't it a bit senseless? You cannot tell how fast a cpu is based on MHz.
I totally agree, let alone judge how the overall system performs.
Imo the real solution to this whole issue would be to educate users what an appropiate battle size is for their system, while dropping the display of cpu freq altogether.
Edit: also default settings according to gpu capabilities, which is sth i've planned to implement for springsettings, but that brings a whole new set of problems with it.
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 19:34
by Columbus
Maybe spring could run some kind of a benchmark when u install it, and the lobby would show the score?
That would give a bit better overview.
But that means, someone has to make a benchmark...
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 19:34
by Peet
It's been tried before...unfortunately it's more complex than you would think to create a benchmark that realistically protrays one's performance in Spring.
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 19:50
by bibim
I guess using bogomips would be better than PR/Mhz ?
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 19:59
by koshi
Peet wrote:It's been tried before...unfortunately it's more complex than you would think to create a benchmark that realistically protrays one's performance in Spring.
Ah yes the glorious idea of springmark. Using an external app to measure an engine's performance...
The only thing i see as remotely doable is a small app that launches spring with a series of scripts that cover a broad spectrum of scenarios and collecting average framerates alongside some system information. That leads to:
a) the problem of defining those scenarios. Which mods/maps? what unit mix/actions? what engine settings? That's one mother of possible combinations
b) the engine would need to calculate and report back framerate average
The caller app is a piece of cake compared to that (and could be easily integrated in springsettings for example)
Bibim: is there a equivalent for those windows folks accesible without relying on external apps?
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 28 May 2008, 22:51
by Peet
The only thing i see as remotely doable is a small app that launches spring with a series of scripts that cover a broad spectrum of scenarios and collecting average framerates
It would have to measure game speed and not FPS, because sim performance is entirely cpu-based.
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 29 May 2008, 20:39
by bibim
koshi wrote:Bibim: is there a equivalent for those windows folks accesible without relying on external apps?
Well I guess the bogomips calculation algorithm could be included in windows lobby clients if needed...
Here is what the mini-HOWTO says about it.
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 31 May 2008, 02:05
by rattle
Yeah please fix it, it says 6 Ghz even though only half of each core is used
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 04 Jun 2008, 17:45
by jj
there was such thing in tasclient, when springmark was intergrated.
look @
http://jobjol.com/springmark.html
but ppl where complaining about the accuracy of the benchmark score, so it was removed
Re: Remove GHz display in tasclient OR make it working correct!!
Posted: 04 Jun 2008, 17:49
by LordMatt
ppl also complained about it being shoved down their throats...