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Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 02:16
by Felix the Cat
This comes from an issue raised elsewhere that has been on several occasions raised before.

Some believe that materially contributing to the community is required in order to be entitled to post here. (Materially contributing = making maps, making mods, writing Spring code, writing Lua.)

Others believe that anyone is entitled to post, regardless of contribution or ability to contribute.

What are your opinions on the issue?

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 02:48
by Dash_Riprock
You mean just off-topic or what?

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 03:04
by kiki
u need to contribute. Anti-troll tactic.

Also, this would support unbanning of emmanuel.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 04:22
by rattle
Uh what exactly do or did you contribute then, kiki?

Anyway, to answer your question: it would be nice to have a seperate player and content dev board to take care of that but unless that happens, no.


Is this going to end up in a flamewar? :P
[ ] yes [ ] maybe

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 04:32
by SwiftSpear
no.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 07:16
by pharoph
FREE SPEECH RULES

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 10:45
by Machiosabre
I'll contribute by telling you all how much you all suck, a lot.

case closed!

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 12:06
by I2:Isaacment_Day
no you just have to act like you are

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 14:02
by Comp1337
i am a very important asset to the spring communi- err forums

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 15:54
by BlackLiger
No, see, I even get to be a mod, and all I've done is post since spring came out, and occasionally winge about stuff that doesn't work right ;) :P

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 17:04
by smoth
It should not be required to post. That is a silly question, this is both a community site and a development site. I do feel that the trolling needs a serious crackdown though.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 17:10
by Pxtl
smoth wrote:It should not be required to post. That is a silly question, this is both a community site and a development site. I do feel that the trolling needs a serious crackdown though.
Not to mention the epic flamewars generated by talented but overly-sensitive content developers.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 17:30
by Sertse
You can also contribute and not play the game at all...

*Notes how I thrown myself in the deep end of mod wars and new site discussion, when I only ever spec/play single player*

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 19:13
by smoth
Pxtl wrote:
smoth wrote:It should not be required to post. That is a silly question, this is both a community site and a development site. I do feel that the trolling needs a serious crackdown though.
Not to mention the epic flamewars generated by talented but overly-sensitive content developers.
point in case on trolling.
Sertse wrote:*Notes how I thrown myself in the deep end of mod wars and new site discussion, when I only ever spec/play single player*
Sertse wrote:when I only ever spec/play single player*
Sertse wrote: I only ever spec/play single player*
Sertse wrote:play single player*
LIES! there is no single player.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 19:41
by DemO
Smoth you're fucking stupid <-- trolling

How you see what pxtl has said as trolling is totally beyond me. OH WAIT, YOU'RE BEING SENSITIVE. THE IRONY.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 19:59
by manored
I remember that really long ago I wrote a flaw filled BA dictionary that most people deemed as useless (incluiding, later, myself). Its a contribuition tough so Im in! :)

Anyway I dont agree with contribuition being required. We can just ban people who troll... but since losing 75% of the forum community all of a sudden would be a shock, we can ban only the guys who troll a lot ;)

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 20:21
by SinbadEV
I wrote the manual. Also... Chess Mod.

No really... I've just been here since the beginning and tend to not act like a hormonal teenage emo-kid, whiner baby, Xbox fanboy, AOLer or whatever Comp1337 is... most of the time.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 20:41
by tombom
Of course not. Even if it was, you'd get a lot of problems re what counts as contributing.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 22:21
by AF
People post opinions and decisions on the forums, or maybe theyre just having fun and making the most of it, but when they're not you have to evaluate their responses.

If that person develops or creates content or some kind be that code or a title that implies responsibility or authority be that a moderator a map maker or a coder, that lends weight to their argument because they can actually do something with what they think, they have the necessary will power to do something or persuade someone who can.

But when someone has not contributed anything material to the community then they're evaluated based on what respect and standing they have, their tone and attitude, and the merits of their argument.

However the merits of an argument are not the final say and people must understand that a condescending tone and a negative critical stance will leave your posts ignored and your respect somewhat lacking. If you haven't contributed to the community in material worth you need to get by on who you are as a person and a lot of people are in the habit of spending kudos they never had to spend.



This thread in itself was likely started because of a pm reply I sent to felix. It wasn't exactly the most rosy of private messages but needs facilitated that I got the point across, and one of my points was that because of felix's hostile stance and his reliance on mere kudos to lend weight to his arguments, as well as his overall negative critical attitude, that I felt I did not have much reason to listen to his points, especially when accused of a vendetta, and that to do so was inviting trouble.

Because of this felix was best to keep clear and throw aside the notion of a vendetta against him. I couldn't care less any more, and I'm more inclined to find the whole affair rather amusing, but it's not fair to waste community time and thread derailment for my personal pleasure, nor do I wish myself or felix to have to spend time writing private messages that ultimately do not get us anywhere, especially when felix has admitted trolling me but refuses to accept any wrongdoing on his part, how he expects me to place any trust in him and work towards a healthy relationship of sorts I do not know.

I must admit myself though I am not a perfect individual, and I may come across as arrogant at times, although it is not my intention, and for that I apologise. However I do think people believe I take things to heart far more than I actually do, and as I always say, imagine a =p at the end of every one of my posts.

Re: Is Contributing Required?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 22:25
by Felix the Cat
SPRINGFORUMS R SERIUS BIZNES AF