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New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 15 Mar 2008, 23:51
by TradeMark
My new awesome theory about how the world is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6XMwDkVrVE
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Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 02:04
by Saktoth
Yes. This will revolutionize science!
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 06:49
by Scratch
Actually the world is composed more of dark matter/energy than anything else. Theories do more to prove that our world is more of a particle simulation than anything else. (matter is not really solid, or scientists are unable to determine what exactly holds the atom together)
And since time isn't constant anywhere, they bring in a concept of non locality, which means time itself changes based on physical location, time at your head is different from time at your toe. Also the speed of light is not constant not just because of non locality, but because I understand some experiments have proven that the speed of light is actually slowing down.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 12:51
by tombom
New theory:
YOU ARE RETARDED
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 15:00
by TradeMark
What i actually meant, everything is constructed by this kind of particle gravity thing, and it just appears to look like something else, "dark matter" etc.
The symmetry starts looking random, and creating a spinning mass by just a coincidence. Who can explain why it starts spinning?
Maybe all these physic laws are made by same kind of coincidence, starting from a very simple model, and ending into a complex systems: quantum, light, atom, stars, galaxies, and so on.
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Nice stats
Yes 33%
No 33%
Maby 33%
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 17:53
by Teutooni
Well, a stronger law than the speed of light seems to be the speed of information, anyway.
Maybe all physical laws are made by infinite amount of repeated tries (multiverse with an infinite amount of universes) and it just so happens with this particular set of laws, a sentient life can form and start to wonder where the hell they are.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 03:14
by Panda
TradeMark wrote:What i actually meant, everything is constructed by this kind of particle gravity thing, and it just appears to look like something else, "dark matter" etc.
According to chaos theory the behavior of chaotic systems appear to be random, when in fact they are deterministic, their future conditions are completely defined by their initial conditions with no random elements involved.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 03:48
by Scratch
I would like to bring in a direct counterpoint to that.
Quantum Indeterminacy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_indeterminacy
Quote:
In quantum mechanics, however, indeterminacy is of a much more fundamental nature, having nothing to do with errors or disturbance.
As far as I know you are talking about Quantum Mechanics. These ideas are all theories, in theory it is deterministic, but we are unable to run tests to prove this, because higher dimensions have been proven to exist, and they exist inside the matter we are trying to study. And these dimensions seem to have a mind of their own, in some experiments, particles have been proven to exist only when being observed.
Einstein, Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen did show that if quantum mechanics is correct, then the classical view of how the real world works (at least after special relativity) is no longer tenable.
Hyperspace is deeper theory of non locality, where we begin to see that the space between atoms is swallowed up in higher dimensions, because both atoms know what each other are doing regardless of their location.
It could even be argued that the particles of the atom don't exist because they have demonstrated non-locality. In fact the world we see composes almost nothing compared to the energy held in dark matter, and the higher dimensions inside of it.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 04:04
by Scratch
Here's a comparison of the best interpretations from experiments at this time in science:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpreta ... Comparison
Nobody knows anything, really.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 04:59
by Noruas
Dear God,
Please tell the silly people in the white button shirts that theories are silly, faith is far better than things that cant be proven that are called theories.
AAAAAMMEEEEIN!
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 05:26
by Otherside
this thread lacks emmanuel like poll options
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Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 17:39
by manored
You cant know if you are inside a black box if you have never been outside the box to see it is black.
AKA All teories are wrong :)
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 22:15
by CarRepairer
New theory: The world is just a speed metal map and we are spaem.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 23:37
by TradeMark
more like a speedball map, because its round and symmetric, and much more fun.
Scratch wrote:And these dimensions seem to have a mind of their own, in some experiments, particles have been proven to exist only when being observed.
Are you talking about that... when some stuff was being observed, it acted like they were particles, but when nobody observed them, they acted like a waveform?
Thats just because the observing affected the result. No own mind or anything.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 18 Mar 2008, 02:20
by Aether_0001
1. Oh no my head hurts at the thought of intense physics.
2. Isn't it not possible right now to conclude what the world is made of?
3. Antimatter = particle
4. Whats emmanuel?
5. Explain your points without giving away half your argument to links, which i assume almost no one looks at. They only look at what's on the page.
6. My idea of the universe is generally that the universe is made of small particles bound, yes, by gravity, but also by electromagnectic forces, and the inter-quark force, etc.
7. Wouldn't antimatter repel matter? Otherwise how would it exist without annihilating?
Edit-8. I hope i addressed everything.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 18 Mar 2008, 20:13
by manored
Wasnt there one teory talking about something like particles wich came and left existance everwhere evertime except in places where they didnt fit, creating a constant force out of everwhere that never affected anything except 2 objects so close to each other that those particles couldnt fit into then?
Doesnt that sounds like headache? :)
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 09:13
by Scratch
TradeMark wrote:more like a speedball map, because its round and symmetric, and much more fun.
Scratch wrote:And these dimensions seem to have a mind of their own, in some experiments, particles have been proven to exist only when being observed.
Are you talking about that... when some stuff was being observed, it acted like they were particles, but when nobody observed them, they acted like a waveform?
Thats just because the observing affected the result. No own mind or anything.
I don't think so. Let me just straighten one thing out, the phenomena where they only materialize when being observed is something else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introducti ... _mechanics
In other words, quantum mechanics cannot give exact results, but only the probabilities for the occurrence of a variety of possible results. Heisenberg went further and said that the path of a moving particle only comes into existence once we observe it.
By mind of its own, I mean the unseen world. Astronomers call it the mysterious dark matter, which actually gives the atom energy to its orbiting electrons. To go further than that is to say that this unseen world is actually the proven fifth dimension(and up to 4 more), which we are unable to penetrate with any kind of radiation in any spectrum.
Like Heisenberg said, only a probable result range can be calculated. So I say that these particles do what they want, no outside radiation or other particles affect it beyond a certain point. You could call this the error range however experiments have proven otherwise, which is why they are spending so much on particle accelerators in order to conduct an experiment outside of the dimension of time, which they have succeeded in doing within the last 20 years I believe, but they still have no answers. Their experiments are largely unsuccessful in regards to proving their theories.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 09:21
by Scratch
Aether_0001 wrote:1. Oh no my head hurts at the thought of intense physics.
2. Isn't it not possible right now to conclude what the world is made of?
3. Antimatter = particle
4. Whats emmanuel?
5. Explain your points without giving away half your argument to links, which i assume almost no one looks at. They only look at what's on the page.
6. My idea of the universe is generally that the universe is made of small particles bound, yes, by gravity, but also by electromagnectic forces, and the inter-quark force, etc.
7. Wouldn't antimatter repel matter? Otherwise how would it exist without annihilating?
Edit-8. I hope i addressed everything.
I dont know much about anti matter, but I will address your other points for entertainment.
2. Like I said, over 99% of the world is dark matter/energy. Just think about it, the size of the particles themselves is less than 99% of the size of the empty space between them, which there is no account for. (in fact the ratio is in the millions I think.)
3. don't know.
4. don't know
5. I try to use links only to backup certain quotes.
6. This is most interesting. The universe is most definetly not made mostly of particles, it is vastly more composed of dark matter/energy than anything else. That's outer space. Gravity is just one of the unseen forces at work within the atom and affecting every kind of radiation.
Here's the question to wrap yourselves around. What is this dark matter? If there's nothing there, then what separates planet earth from the next star? Not air. And the other question - how is it possible that an atom in another part of the universe knows what an atom on the earth is doing at the exact same time?
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 14:17
by tombom
What is "dark matter/energy" anyway
2. Like I said, over 99% of the world is dark matter/energy. Just think about it, the size of the particles themselves is less than 99% of the size of the empty space between them, which there is no account for. (in fact the ratio is in the millions I think.)
Are you suggesting that because there's empty space in between particles, there must be something in between them that we just can't see for some bizarre reason and not that it's just empty space?
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 15:16
by rattle
At least spell maybe right the next time 10q. Stupid poll threads.