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Vista SP1 will fix everything and unpregnant your GF
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 20:30
by Caydr
Not really. Actually it does
nothing.
But in other news, XP's new service pack increases performance
by as much as 10%,
roflcopterskates.
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 21:36
by imbaczek
It's not that Vista is crap.
It's just pointless.
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 21:50
by rattle
As much as I thought about XP when I was on 2k.
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 21:57
by Tobi
IMHO the only reason to upgrade is because Microsoft pushes it down your throat by, at some time, stopping to support XP. (And, at this time already, forcing Vista to be shipped with most consumer PCs.
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 22:49
by AF
I'm more bothered by this unholy obsession with Vista caydr has. If XP is so great why bother moaning about vista to begin with, especially when the 98 versus XP stats look even bleaker.
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 23:20
by Neddie
Flee, flee to LINUX!
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 23:26
by SinbadEV
My Mom seems very happy with Vista... so if you wanted to I could ask "Who likes Vista?" so that you could very appropriately answer "Your Mom".
...
So, who likes Vista?
uh
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 23:26
by rcdraco
I think you just said your mom does.
Re: uh
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 23:27
by SinbadEV
rcdraco wrote:I think you just said your mom does.
Great, thanks for ruining it.
Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 23:50
by lurker
Well you were pretty much begging for someone to reply seriously.
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 04:29
by Caydr
I've explained my unholy obsession SO many times...
AF wrote:I'm more bothered by this unholy obsession with Vista caydr has. If XP is so great why bother moaning about vista to begin with, especially when the 98 versus XP stats look even bleaker.
For starters, XP does things that Windows 98 does not.
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 04:51
by Archangel of Death
For the record, I didn't upgrade to XP until I got a new computer that itself required it, and not just the games. In that way I avoided having any experience whatsoever with ME, and it just might get me past Vista too!
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 04:57
by Caydr
Tobi wrote:IMHO the only reason to upgrade is because Microsoft pushes it down your throat by, at some time, stopping to support XP. (And, at this time already, forcing Vista to be shipped with most consumer PCs.
Support? I haven't downloaded a security update in like 3 years. I think all of us here are more irritated by the "DX10 isn't possible! ... We just said so, dammit!" nonsense.
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 05:14
by rattle
It probably is possible with some effort but why bother, they have a product to sell. Vista exclusive super advanced graphics is a good bait apparently, as a friend of mine installed Vista to see what Crysis looks like on DX10.
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 05:43
by Argh
According to the latest stuff, nVidia has finally gotten their Vista drivers working pretty well, though, including OpenGL (QuakeWars apparently continues the Id tradition...).
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 06:04
by clumsy_culhane
iirc Dx10 is not able to run on XP because of major API differences in the actual Windows. like i think in Vista the graphics driver runs separately to the o/s, so if the graphics driver crashes, the o/s tells the driver to reboot but you don't actually have to reboot the whole system. (this actually seems to work, it has happened when the graphics crashed, the graphics driver restarted after around 10 secs and i didn't lost my work :D)
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 06:14
by AF
Indeed udner XP when your gfx driver crashes you get a BSOD.
Under vista the screen pauses for a sec and a balloon popup appears saying the driver didn't respond had has been reset. Vista graphics memory si also virtualized unlike XP allowing multiple full screen directx and opengl programs to run at once.
What really puzzles me caydr is that you complain that Vista is so slow yet when we ask you about the performance you get in games, you say you get good frame rates.
Argh, yes opengl drivers for Vista under nvidia are quite good now. I haven't had a TDR crash on my main machine running spring in quite a while now. Sadly my main PC is in my room, and my room's very cold during the winter, so for the moment I don't want frostbite. Sadly ATI drivers however are stuck in the stoneage. ATI OGL drivers have yet to even reach the state the nvidia drivers where in on the day Vista was officially released.
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 12:24
by Shoelip
Hm, I (reletively) recently got a new card and it seemed to reset itself every few minutes with a pop up window just like you mentioned, and I have XP. Course I returned that piece of junk for a different card that has never crashed.
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 20:00
by Caydr
Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 20:30
by Relative
Death Note woooooooooooooooo