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1v1 BA tourney

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 00:08
by flop
Maps:
Round 1: Coast to Coast Remake
Round 2: Sands of War
Finals: Splintered Tropics

Players:

PROt_BeLeaGueR
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PRO_]ShoX[

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Folly
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PRO_flopflop

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PRO_rANDY
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s0lv3

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[tN]Exit_Wound
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URL_00

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 02:02
by Day
andy threw the game GG

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 03:03
by PRO_rANDY
lies, i didnt throw it, just not motivated and played badly as a result.

Anyway thx to flop on hosting tourney, and congrats on winning it. Also well done to solv3 for getting to finals.

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 07:06
by Sleksa
flop is teh shite!!1one

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 15:00
by knorke
replays? iam bored

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 20:28
by url_00
I found out that I suck at 1vs1...
:shock:

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 20:40
by EXit_W0und
Good stuff, we need more of these :)
If you plan on making this a regular thing maybe get an autohost or 2 set up just for 1v1s and team v team tournys. I definitely want to see some clan v clan tournys here.

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 21:33
by pintle
EXit_W0und wrote:I definitely want to see some clan v clan tournys here.
Hell yeah.

Im sure some of the XTA autohost owners would be willing to let them be used for tourneys, regardless of the mod.

Posted: 20 Aug 2007, 23:06
by flop
just to let you guys know im going to be hosting another tourney tomorrow. hopefully I will be able to round up 16 1v1ers. It will be held 8-9pm gmt and you can join #tourney to start signing up tomorrow morning.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 04:50
by Neddie
url_00 wrote:I found out that I suck at 1vs1...
:shock:
Sucking at 1v1 is like sucking at guessing. Don't sweat it.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 12:20
by Lolsquad_Steven
url_00 wrote:I found out that I suck at 1vs1...
:shock:
Just do what neddiedrow does, blame the 1v1 system instead of yourself.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 12:56
by Comp1337
neddiedrow wrote:
url_00 wrote:I found out that I suck at 1vs1...
:shock:
Sucking at 1v1 is like sucking at guessing. Don't sweat it.
1v1 is pure skill. You can't go around it, it is you and only you who is responsible for winning/losin.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 13:35
by pintle
Imo 1v1, while intense and undoubtedly involving skill, removes quite a few elements that are present in team play.

You are always being 100% offensive, in a completely linear way: enemy is *here* block his expansion from *this* point.

You know very early on which lab they have built, and the advantages/weaknesses of said lab, whereas in teamplay it is much easier to get a sneaky air attack off.

Flanking/feigning have less impact upon the outcome of a battle in 1v1 imho.

All that said, I love 1v1.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 16:05
by Hul
in a 1v1 you have to be able to do everything. like build resources, spam, build all defences, expand. porcers tend to suck at 1v1. i suck at most 1v1s but speedmetal is easy for 1v1

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 18:04
by PRO_rANDY
maybe on a very low level 1v1 pintle, but high end theres lots of sneaky things/flanking/fainting to be done

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 18:51
by EXit_W0und
I suggested in a pm to flop earlier on that we have 2 tournaments side by side. One for Experienced players, and one for players newer to the game.
We could split it up as stars/non stars but some may wish to submit their own judge of their skill level rather than use rank as the qualifier. This should make it easier to find better matched opponents all round, and encourage the newer players to try 1v1 more.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 19:33
by Peace
EW how about we put the ppl who ever won vs randy in one group and the others in the other :P

I'd like to participate but can't tonight..well at least not before midnight :(

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 20:28
by pintle
PRO_rANDY wrote:maybe on a very low level 1v1 pintle, but high end theres lots of sneaky things/flanking/fainting to be done
Are you trying to imply that i am a very low level player? :roll: I was basically inferring that clan matches require a degree of organisation, communication, and timing which are inherently lacking in 1v1.

The larger scale allows more strategic freedom (and more room for recovery) and allows for more diverse gameplay, whilst still requiring all the skills necessary for a 1v1.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 20:38
by Sleksa
i use communication in 1v1. i use timing in 1v1. you dont?

there is no larger scale, only more time required to attain it.

there is LESS strategic freedom (amount of nat.expos)

And less skill is involved since you have more room for recovery if you screw up, as another player can back you up.

it doesnt allow more diverse gameplay, it is still the same ba you play be it 1v1 or 5v5.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007, 20:43
by pintle
Who do you communicate with?

Timing is more important when trying to mount a combined strike vs multiple opponents.

Nat.expos=?

More recovery= harder kill

The diversity issue... try com-dropping to *that* hill part way across the map in a 1v1, watch you base get rushed. See many LRPC/nuc/t3 (lol t2?) in 1v1s? Refused flank= impossible/irrelevant in 1v1. etc etc etc