Spring RTS Engine

i have an idea that might benefit Spring. ok, just say there is a pink (or something) laser that obliterates tanks, but is extremely weak with everything else. or a missle that does 20 damage to planes, but 150 to kbots. the units that have these weapons would never be built in the factory that it is strong against.

e.g. kbot killer would be in the adv vehicle and plane factories, but sence it kills kbots, it wont be in the kbot lab.

see?

We already have this @___@

It was even in TA...

zoy64 just never post your ideas again

every single one of them sucks bad i'm sorry

tombom wrote:zoy64 just never post your ideas again

every single one of them sucks bad

Nice, and straight to the point! I like!

not to mention it's an ugly method of balancing anyway...

lurker wrote:not to mention it's an ugly method of balancing anyway...

But sometimes quite nessacery e.g. rifles not damaging tanks in S:44

Already possible

FLOZi wrote:But sometimes quite nessacery e.g. rifles not damaging tanks in S:44

Yes, sometimes, but not used all over for no good reason. That just makes the mod more complicated and harder to learn.

But RPS is perfectly balanced!!1one~!

lurker wrote:not to mention it's an ugly method of balancing anyway...

Bullshit. It just depends on how your mod is set up. If you have e.g. an Ikaruga damage system (black units take more damage from white shots and vice versa) it's quite logical. Of course giving random, powerful damage modifiers that noone can make any sense of is bad style but many armor types don't react the same to all weapons and many unit designs have different weaknesses. E.g. a building will not suffer much from an APDFS round because hitting any critical point that would disable the building is much harder while an HE round will not deal well with tank armor. Or you could have a unit with special anti-energy-weapon armor that takes normal damage from conventional shots but lasers and so on do little damage to it. It's no more arbitrary than saying "flaks can't shoot at ground units" when there were even real-life situations where flaks were used to target ground things.

Also sometimes it's just necessary to modify the number of hits one unit needs for another without affecting anything else, e.g. preventing a weapon from oneshotting smaller stuff without making the unit weaker against more powerful enemies.

Of course things like SimBase's damage modifiers for the commander make no sense (everything does only very little damage to the commander, Peet could just as well have given the com a HUEG amount of HP).

Zoy64 wrote:i have an idea that might benefit Spring. ok, just say there is a pink (or something) laser that obliterates tanks, but is extremely weak with everything else. or a missle that does 20 damage to planes, but 150 to kbots. the units that have these weapons would never be built in the factory that it is strong against.

e.g. kbot killer would be in the adv vehicle and plane factories, but sence it kills kbots, it wont be in the kbot lab.

see?

What makes you think that you were the first to think in that? :)

And even if it was new idea you still shouldnt post here. This area is for implementations in the engine hinself and not in the mods.

Still No Excuse to treat Zoy64 like you are all assholes, its just an honest question, that needs 1 response answer.

Problem is that new people join ever day (or so we hope :) ), so people must, unhappyfull, know some stuff even before having the chance to. (or at least thats what we spect from then :) )

No need to be as rude as some people are tough...