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Venturing in to space useless?

Posted: 07 Jul 2007, 20:10
by Muzic
Anyways I was reading off my science text book.

In a nutshell this is what it said about space exploration being profitable.

Asteroids are very rich in minerals and in the future when the techonology is available we will be able to mine these asteroids for the vaulable minerals. An asteroid has a very low force of gravity so it would be easy to land and take off an asteroid.

Posted: 07 Jul 2007, 20:12
by Zoombie
And there are the scientific research possibilities, the exploration, colonization benefit and so on. It might not be the most profitable thing ever at the outset, but in the long run, it might be what's best for the human race and not just the human's wallets.

Posted: 07 Jul 2007, 20:25
by Zpock
Zoombie wrote:And there are the scientific research possibilities, the exploration, colonization benefit and so on. It might not be the most profitable thing ever at the outset, but in the long run, it might be what's best for the human race and not just the human's wallets.
We'll have to have peace, universal language, tights for uniforms, and a defense against the Korg!

Posted: 07 Jul 2007, 20:30
by Muzic
Humans must really porce if the aliens made krog D:

Theres always the universal greeting ^_________^

Posted: 07 Jul 2007, 20:40
by Dragon45
<Earth> Okay guys, we gotta pwoer to tech 2. teh enemi is doing fast krog strat and we must be prepared
<Humanity> kekkeek i spawm gatoer

Posted: 07 Jul 2007, 22:57
by Caydr
Asteroids don't have minerals, they have RUs... some people's children...

Haha "fast krog strat"

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 03:07
by manored
Unleash we discover something that makes space travels cheap in the future I dont think it would be profitable to bring minerals back to earth, it would be probaly better to use em where we got em (Space Colonies).

And there is no "Fast krogoth strategy", only "Before 3 hours of game krogoth strategy" :)

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 04:05
by AF
Nasa estimates it could cost 13 million dollars a minute to keep a man on the moon.

However the helium-3 that man then carries onto the rocket is worth trillions of dollars per tonne and could revolutionize are entire energy infrastructure providing vast amounts of clean energy with almost no nuclear waste whatsoever, aswell as making fusions a heck of a lot more viable by vastly reducing neutron radiation that degrades the tokamak walls quickly.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 04:09
by Ishach
manored wrote: And there is no "Fast krogoth strategy", only "Before 3 hours of game krogoth strategy" :)
i dont think you played ba4.7

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 04:22
by AF
eee! a big sweaty woman(man?) with a laoda booze!!!

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 08:11
by Zoombie
AF wrote:Nasa estimates it could cost 13 million dollars a minute to keep a man on the moon.
NASA is also known for being really really bloated and squandering money. I've read a plan to get men on mars and make money out of it for under 10 million dollars. Mostly becuase most of the fuel is synthesized out of the Martian atmosphere using a chemical process that's been around since the 1900. Now let me find the book, A Case for Mars, and I'll put up the formula.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 15:29
by SwiftSpear
The short of the story is at the current point in time there isn't anything incredibly valuable in space that we know of and just need to get out there and bring back... Then again, Columbus didn't sail for America based on a strong idea of the business opportunities it provided...

Humans have a natural tendency to want to explore. Christ, if I were to suddenly learn there was a colonizable planet somewhere in the universe that we somehow got access to, I very well might want to go there.

In the long run there is a fixed amount of resources on earth, and a fixed amount of energy we can possibly extract from the sun, our solar body. The only saving grace we might possibly have once we pass the peak extraction point is that hopefully travel technology has advanced enough to start extracting from a larger field of resources.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 16:02
by Zpock
AF wrote:Nasa estimates it could cost 13 million dollars a minute to keep a man on the moon.
Is this based on sending him supplies all the time? If a self sustained system could be made, like agridomes and other cool stuff, then it wouldn't "cost" anything once the stuff is there.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 16:54
by imbaczek
SwiftSpear wrote:Then again, Columbus didn't sail for America based on a strong idea of the business opportunities it provided...
Exactly, he sailed to India for the strong business opportunities. Ever wondered why native Americans are called Indians, and real Indians are called Hindus? And who are Indian Americans? 8)

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 18:38
by manored
imbaczek wrote:
SwiftSpear wrote:Then again, Columbus didn't sail for America based on a strong idea of the business opportunities it provided...
Exactly, he sailed to India for the strong business opportunities. Ever wondered why native Americans are called Indians, and real Indians are called Hindus? And who are Indian Americans? 8)
Yeah, he wasnt specting to find a continent blocking his path... :)

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 19:57
by rattle
Columbus pathfinding AI was broken.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 20:07
by Neddie
rattle wrote:Columbus pathfinding AI was broken.
Also, his ships had deplorably low LOS values.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 20:09
by rattle
Caydr to blame? 8)

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 21:34
by Caydr
You're on my list.

Posted: 08 Jul 2007, 21:46
by Guessmyname
You'll need to know his name first!