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"Opinion: Vista's UK price is unfair", "Micro
Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 21:49
by PauloMorfeo
Opinion: Vista's UK price is unfair, 27-1-2007
I├óÔé¼Ôäóm generally pro-Microsoft. In my business life I├óÔé¼Ôäóve ... but ...
I├óÔé¼Ôäóm referring to the fact that here in the UK you├óÔé¼Ôäóll have to fork out around ├é┬ú220 for the Home premium version of Vista, but in America you could pick up precisely the same software for $230.00 (├é┬ú115) - quite a difference, isn├óÔé¼Ôäót it? The are similar price hikes for all of the consumer versions of Vista.
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http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=8214
Microsoft sued over 'Vista Capable' claims, 3-4-2007
Microsoft deceived customers by allowing PC makers to label computers as "Windows Vista Capable" even though they couldn't handle Vista's key features, according to lawsuit lodged in the US.
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http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/11063/53/
Microsoft Hit By U.S. DOT Ban On Windows Vista, Explorer 7, and Office 2007, 2-3-2007
Tens of thousands of federal workers are prohibited from upgrading to the latest versions, according to memos seen by InformationWeek.
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http://www.informationweek.com/news/sho ... =197700789
Vista: Slow and Dangerous, 15-3-2007
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The most exasperating thing about Vista, though, is the security feature called User Account Control. UAC, satirized in an Apple (AAPL) ad as a security guy who constantly interrupts a conversation, appears as a pop-up asking permission before Windows will do a number of things: ...
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ ... =techmaven
Becta report slams Microsoft academic licensing, dismisses Vista, 10-2-2007
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- Microsoft's licensing arrangements in the education sector pose "significant potential for institutions to find themselves locked in to Microsoft"... and "very significant complexity... that has resulted in widespread use of inappropriate licensing strategies."
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http://www.businessreviewonline.com/os/ ... rt_sl.html
Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 21:54
by AF
I have Vista business edition 32bit legally. I got it for free via MSDN Academic alliance. I have UAC turned off because theres a bug where Sun Java doesnt ask windows for escalated privilledges when starting spring via aflobby. Nvidia and ATI drivers are not mature yet. No other problems (although tasclient has horrid rendering bugs that arent easy to notice on XP but are glaringly obvious under the aero theme).
I assume you paulomorfeo havent ran Vista for at least a week?
I do agree the price is horrendous though, but most big brand software is horrendously priced, look at photoshop and office. imo Windows should never brach the £50 mark for consumers, if only to encourage users to buy it rather than going "wtf thats huge lets just wait for the pirate copy"
Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 22:15
by Neddie
A number of universities around the country have decided to forgo Vista support for the next one to three years, due to the redundant and wasteful nature of the OS.
Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 22:28
by Guessmyname
Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 23:18
by Caydr
That's a great site. Now when I go to the SupCom forums and answer every tech support post with "It's because you're a tard using Vista, the worst OS ever," I'll have something to back it up with.
Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 23:25
by AF
Thats because most universities optimized there XP install to work on machines which cost less and now they're balking cuz the machines dont meet the minimum specifications of Vista so theyre waiting for the next major hardware update to save money.
Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 23:58
by Caydr
Or... they're just not dumb enough to pay money for a downgrade?
Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 00:08
by Neddie
AF wrote:Thats because most universities optimized there XP install to work on machines which cost less and now they're balking cuz the machines dont meet the minimum specifications of Vista so theyre waiting for the next major hardware update to save money.
No, AF, it would be because Vista doesn't do what they need - read; anything efficiently.
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 11:43
by Drezil
im really happy that i switched to linux completely.
I hear everyone complaining about software which does not work, about this UAC popping up all the time, etc. pp.
I can just laugh about this.
I mad the experience that i just tell my system i need some kind of office progrim, some kind of music-player, some games, a bit of programmers stuff and thats it. And linux is going like: "ok. there are about xx packets to be downloaded.." then i work normally for some time or just watch it downloading. Installation is automated, registration/activation keys are not needed and it just works.
Every day may system checks itself for program-updates, notifies my and i just say "update" and the rest works all alone. I can even continue using an application which is updated in that moment.
And the best: ne reboots are necessary (except for kernel upgrades).
It is so much better than windows

Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 12:35
by AF
Not quite, Linux still has driver issues, and the vast ,majority of usb networking equipment doesnt work, and of whats left the vast majority of that requires command line work. Ubuntu for example requires that I spend a while configuring a text file in order to get proper wifi support beyond very basic encryption.
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 17:44
by Dragon45
I actually have Vista and its not bad. I didn't get it by choice so to speak (go it on a new laptop for some work i was doing for a company). It's not a bad OS all in all for stability and usch - i dont think ive crashed it yet, but i definitely woudl not suggest, from my perosnal experience, using it for coprporate stuff. Random shit doesnt work once in a while, and f.ex my touchpad scrollbar stopped working randomly a few days ago and then started working again a day or two later O_o.
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 19:28
by Cabbage
Opinion: Vista's UK price is unfair, 27-1-2007
Quote:
I├óÔé¼Ôäóm generally pro-Microsoft. In my business life I├óÔé¼Ôäóve ... but ...
I├óÔé¼Ôäóm referring to the fact that here in the UK you├óÔé¼Ôäóll have to fork out around ├é┬ú220 for the Home premium version of Vista, but in America you could pick up precisely the same software for $230.00 (├é┬ú115) - quite a difference, isn├óÔé¼Ôäót it? The are similar price hikes for all of the consumer versions of Vista.
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Everything in the U.K. is more expensive than the U.S.... Except cheese that is actualy suitable for human consumption, americans couldn't make decent cheese to save their lives... and bacon..
well in general anyway

Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 19:29
by Cabbage
Opinion: Vista's UK price is unfair, 27-1-2007
Quote:
I├óÔé¼Ôäóm generally pro-Microsoft. In my business life I├óÔé¼Ôäóve ... but ...
I├óÔé¼Ôäóm referring to the fact that here in the UK you├óÔé¼Ôäóll have to fork out around ├é┬ú220 for the Home premium version of Vista, but in America you could pick up precisely the same software for $230.00 (├é┬ú115) - quite a difference, isn├óÔé¼Ôäót it? The are similar price hikes for all of the consumer versions of Vista.
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Everything in the U.K. is more expensive than the U.S.... Except (imported) cheese that is actualy suitable for human consumption, americans couldn't make decent cheese to save their lives...
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 19:36
by Comp1337
Double post is double
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 19:44
by Guessmyname
And both different. How on earth'd you manage that?
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 20:39
by Cabbage
i'm just practicing my hax
i left out the bacon bit when i remembered you cant get proper bacon in america anyway :p
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 20:54
by Neddie
Cheese is never suitable for human consumption.
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 20:58
by Cabbage
Okay then - Cheese that is in actual fact produced using some form of animal milk, depending on local preference, rather than from tapping rubber trees and adding your colouring of choice.
you're not eating real cheese until your face suddenly crumples up and your mouth is tighter than a cats arse hole! ^^
Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 21:00
by Snipawolf
lol..
Neddie, you don't like cheese either?

Posted: 05 Jul 2007, 21:06
by Zoombie
You don't like cheese? Madness!