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Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 00:49
by smoth
albator wrote: - Finally, mods dev. other than BA should stop depreciated it
I mock it because it is a shoddy hackjob made from STOLEN content. I have bothered to point these things out in a constructive manner.
albator wrote:cause BA is the reason why they get attracted here and will eventually play other games including theirs.
Don't assume your reason is everyone's reason.
albator wrote: When I look at help threads, I see mods developer answering question by ignoring that the question was referrer to BA and starting to imply they would not have this problem in his mods...
Again you are making your own version of the story not considering other possible motives. I speak about my project as that is what *I* can control. I speak about MY project because it is what *I* can observe. Conversely stop thinking everything revolves around BA.
albator wrote: That makes the communality looks childlish/stupid.
Looks at join date... you should know better by now that this community does MUCH more childish things even when compared to your imaginary version of the content developers.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 00:54
by knorke
bibim wrote:stats
at this rate i predict first 8v8 zeroK dsd for august 2011

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 01:08
by albator
smoth wrote:
albator wrote: - Finally, mods dev. other than BA should stop depreciated it
I mock it because it is a shoddy hackjob made from STOLEN content. I have bothered to point these things out in a constructive manner.
albator wrote:cause BA is the reason why they get attracted here and will eventually play other games including theirs.
Don't assume your reason is everyone's reason.
albator wrote: When I look at help threads, I see mods developer answering question by ignoring that the question was referrer to BA and starting to imply they would not have this problem in his mods...
Again you are making your own version of the story not considering other possible motives. I speak about my project as that is what *I* can control. I speak about MY project because it is what *I* can observe. Conversely stop thinking everything revolves around BA.
albator wrote: That makes the communality looks childlish/stupid.
Looks at join date... you should know better by now that this community does MUCH more childish things even when compared to your imaginary version of the content developers.
I was not even targeted you... but you made a point: you can expected unconstructive comment everywhere...

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 01:49
by smoth
I am speaking from one voice, to represent at least once voice stating that your opinion is not the absolute. It proves only that opinions and perspectives vary.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 08:56
by Wombat
albator wrote:
- Finally, mods dev. other than BA should stop depreciated it

I mock it because it is a shoddy hackjob made from STOLEN content. I have bothered to point these things out in a constructive manner.
wondering why u mock only BA for that :regret:

alba talking about ego lolol
knorke wrote:
bibim wrote:stats
at this rate i predict first 8v8 zeroK dsd for august 2011
i think ive played 8v8 0k. it was much better than small games ! (in yo face)

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 14:36
by smoth
Wombat wrote:I mock it because it is a shoddy hackjob made from STOLEN content. I have bothered to point these things out in a constructive manner.
wondering why u mock only BA for that[/quote]
Because BA seems to be in a sort of denial of it. Everytime I play this paragon of balance or even spectate it the errors in it's design become quickly apparent and I get frustrated. I then resolve to not play/spec it again, eventually forget that that I avoid it because it is badly made and eventually getting dragged into one or the other and get disappointed all over again. It is a very frustrating cycle.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 14:53
by TradeMark
i have yet not seen any errors in BA design. elaborate?

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 15:22
by very_bad_soldier
smoth wrote: Because BA seems to be in a sort of denial of it. Everytime I play this paragon of balance or even spectate it the errors in it's design become quickly apparent and I get frustrated. I then resolve to not play/spec it again, eventually forget that that I avoid it because it is badly made and eventually getting dragged into one or the other and get disappointed all over again. It is a very frustrating cycle.
Provoking questions: How is it possible in your opinion that so many players have apparently lots of fun playing it if it is really so utterly broken?
Why arent you happy about BA since it should be easy for you to steal players from BA and make them play Gundam if it is so much better?

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 15:33
by Wombat
fact that you dont enjoy BA is a reason to mock it ? confused...

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 15:43
by smoth
Trade: lurk more brosef. I hate repeating myself, you can read up in the ba forum about it.
very_bad_soldier wrote: Provoking questions: How is it possible in your opinion that so many players have apparently lots of fun playing it if it is really so utterly broken?
Why arent you happy about BA since it should be easy for you to steal players from BA and make them play Gundam if it is so much better?
(posting from iPhone)
Question1) because they trust that the damage systems are largely intentional and consistent, because they do know this are not supposed to work this way or that, because they are chastised when questioning balance issues and are mocked with the moniker noob for not knowing the redicilulous balance, because they are so busy trying to learn that they do not recognize what is wrong. There are many reasons. You can still have fun and not really understand what you are doing. For someone with my personality inconsistencies drive me up a vertical wall.

Question 2) because ba players want 1 thing TA in 3D I have said this many many times. People come here and ask where they can get the best TA experience and eventual settle on ba, which is sold to the by players as TA++. because I do not want to steal players. Because player count isn't important for me and definitely not important enough for me to deride another project(as some of you keep implying). In the end people playing ba are likely not to be fans of gundam, I am fine with this and can respect it. so I instead of what you think, understand that i get upset because I see these issues that I wish were resolved in ba just because they bug me

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 15:47
by smoth
Wombat wrote:fact that you dont enjoy BA is a reason to mock it ? confused...
That isn't what I said or at least not what I meant. I don't enjoy it because it, to me has issues which irritate me stuff which is ok to you I guess.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 16:36
by TradeMark
smoth wrote:Trade: lurk more brosef. I hate repeating myself, you can read up in the ba forum about it.
you could just paste your moaning here from the BA forum. i dont read BA forum, and i certainly arent going to read all your BA forum posts just to find out its all about the issues you are having with yourself:
smoth wrote:For someone with my personality inconsistencies drive me up a vertical wall.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 16:40
by Gota
Wombat i noticed your avatars in the spring forum keep up with the latest memes, but i don't think you've picked the most adequate for yourself..
I think a pic of Rebecca Black's face as your avatar would be better.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 16:46
by smoth
By all means make this all about me so you can have more excuse to call me self centered. :roll:

Fact of the matter is you can forum search that.

These issues do drive off players which is relevant to the thread but in case you missed it I am posting from my iPhone. Also take your derail elsewhere. It you want to have some fun go make another thread all about me, I think this thread is starting to derail.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 16:51
by Gota
Are there people still playing BA? I mean aside from the DSD asshats...

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 16:55
by smoth
Definitely, ba is the "best" ta3d candidate according to the community. This combined with people <3ing retro nonmainstream titles even has new kiddies looking to play TA. Because that was TA an obscure gem that got ignored largely because starcraft

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 17:00
by TradeMark
smoth wrote:Fact of the matter is you can forum search that.
so tell me, how i can possibly search only the moaning about BA? what keyword i could use for that? I would have to go through whole BA forum manually and read all the posts, list the stuff i find, and then find out i found nothing important. Time wasted: 10 hours. Profit?

OR, i could ask you to tell everything straight from top of your head and waste only 2minutes of your time, whereas you already wasted 20 minutes talking about how you dont want to repeat yourself and trying to blame me for derailing threads again.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 17:03
by smoth
Forum search ba subforum user smoth skim short versions of posts to glean their nature. This isn't hard stuff

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 19:19
by TradeMark
if its that easy, why dont you do it.

Re: Decline in the number of players

Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 19:23
by Wombat
Gota wrote:Are there people still playing BA? I mean aside from the DSD asshats...
definitely more than sa (i mean, there actually ARE ppl playing BA)