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Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 00:35
by KDR_11k
Poland? Yeah, a nice country, we'll take it :P

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 05:42
by Elkvis
Hoi wrote:Putin is like a russian Bush, that's very dangerous.
No he is not. He is dangerous because he is a crafty, cunning, ruthless control freak.
PicassoCT wrote:Russia is finnished... accept it. There Birthrate is low, there Economy is Petro, there Army is way to big for there small budget - and they try to clean there eurasian borders, because they know that the next trouble they will have- will be for shure with China..
They are also sitting on top of the worlds largest reserves of oil and gas, mostly untapped. They have pipeline spread over europe like veins of influence. This is putins legacy.

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 16:22
by PicassoCT
Elkvis wrote:
They are also sitting on top of the worlds largest reserves of oil and gas, mostly untapped. They have pipeline spread over europe like veins of influence. This is putins legacy.
You know the basic Rules of Free Market? What get´s to expensive, gets replaced by better Things.. as Ironically as it sounds, by flooding the worldmarket with oil, they had the Power, to keep the Carcivilisations addicted to there cheap drug, without giving most Alternatives a Try-> http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200809/termites

Sometimes you can loose your Grip and Throne really fast, what if they sit in the end only on a worthless black liquid, that was Aeons ago Plankton? You can´t even drink it- and why should the west inv(v)est further after that.. they will be left alone, a unimpo(o)rtant
Nuklear armed Nation, unable to solve the Remain-Problems, despotism & Petrol always bring..

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 17:57
by Forboding Angel
tombom wrote: A true conservative would never admit that global warming existed :-) (That is unless the CEO of General Motors said he would like to hear it)

See? Hilarious!
What? See that makes no sense. Like conservatives give a crap about the ceo of GM...

Global warming (As the liberals present it) is a giant hoax, and anyone with 2 eyes and a brain can figure it out for themselves.

Back in the 70's and 80's we were going to die from global cooling, now it's global warming. In many ways it's an absolutely brilliant hoax because it not only plays on an individuals fears, it also allows individuals to feel as though they are important and that they can make a difference.

US conservatives are going to call global warming a crock of crap no matter who comes out and says it. There are simply too many people with brains. It's fairly easy to see the hoax if you do a little research into history.

BTW scientists now admit that we are in a ten year cooling period. :roll:

Didn't we already cover this in another topic?

TL;DR, your "joke" fails for the above reasons, mine is funny because of the fact that liberals (and hell, most repubicans in office now as well) will "Refactor" their opinions based upon what the latest NYTimes poll says.

Edit: Picasso makes an excellent point. The moment we have an alternative that works as well as gasoline and is more effecient costwise, oil will be next to forgotten.

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 18:26
by PicassoCT
Next to forgotten ? No, Sir.

I vote for opening Oil-Museums, drill Equipment to your left, Geologic Section to your Right, Corruption &Despotism Section (Including a Try-a-Torture-Chamber) right down the Hall- oh, and of course there is the Souvenirshop...

So Oil has a future, it is just not the one most GovOffs expected ;)

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 18:35
by manored
Well we can always fuse the oil in the fusion reactors, they work with anything dont they? :)

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 19:08
by Forboding Angel
PicassoCT wrote:Next to forgotten ? No, Sir.

I vote for opening Oil-Museums, drill Equipment to your left, Geologic Section to your Right, Corruption &Despotism Section (Including a Try-a-Torture-Chamber) right down the Hall- oh, and of course there is the Souvenirshop...

So Oil has a future, it is just not the one most GovOffs expected ;)
I meant for the average consumer, obviously not for military, mass transit, trains, planes, etc.

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 19:09
by PicassoCT
We could use Ex-Dictators as Fuel.. after all the Human Body has 70 Percent Water.. Fool ahem Fuel is burning Engine... oh, another bad German Habbit ;)

No, now for Serious, Ressources stall country development, and if we had independence from Oil and could real Recycle (to get rid of some other "R-hungers") those country couldn´t live on Mother Earths Wellfare, but had to tax there Population - and no taxation without representation (Quoting Zakaria who quotes who quotes... US ;) ) those Petro- Coper- and don´t know what states, whould have to built Institutions, stabilize and finally (after ten or twenty years) would get peacefully conquered by the Civilians..

Worked for SoutKorea, Chile and others that way

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 19:12
by tombom
Forboding Angel wrote: TL;DR, your "joke" fails for the above reasons, mine is funny because of the fact that liberals (and hell, most repubicans in office now as well) will "Refactor" their opinions based upon what the latest NYTimes poll says.
Yes, practically all politicians do change their views based on public opinion.

and your global warming shit is so cute :3 as well as your bizarre belief that electric trains JUST AREN'T POWERFUL ENOUGH

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 20:23
by Forboding Angel
tombom wrote:
Forboding Angel wrote: TL;DR, your "joke" fails for the above reasons, mine is funny because of the fact that liberals (and hell, most repubicans in office now as well) will "Refactor" their opinions based upon what the latest NYTimes poll says.
Yes, practically all politicians do change their views based on public opinion.

and your global warming shit is so cute :3 as well as your bizarre belief that electric trains JUST AREN'T POWERFUL ENOUGH
They ARE powerful enough, but the cost for infrastructure is completely prohibitive.

I find it somewhat amusing/cute that this planet (the planet itself) needs you to fix it.

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 20:25
by tombom
it doesn't, generally life goes on and shit

it's us i'm worried about!

Re: Poland

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 21:13
by Jasper1984
The funny thing about these 'antinukes' is that none of them work.
general short-range tactical ABMs cannot intercept ICBMs, even if within range. The tactical ABM radar and performance characteristics do not allow it, as an incoming ICBM warhead moves much faster than a tactical missile warhead. However it is possible the higher performance THAAD missile could be upgraded to intercept ICBMs.
MIRVs and fractional orbits completely negate the anti-ICBMs. (Don't worry about the mutual destruction factor.)

Argh the antimissile wikipedia link:
The V2s were eventually dealt with by the launch sites being over-run by the rapid advance of the Allied armies through Belgium and the Netherlands.
Oh goddammit,it took them a whole winter before they got over those rivers. d-day was 6th June 1944, they finally freed the Netherlands May 5, 1945. That would make the km/month liberated very low because of those rivers.