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Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 14:43
by SwiftSpear
Do they hovar without flapping?

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 16:48
by Cabbage
Just a small thing, noticed the mininukes from the Liche don't seem to deform the terrain at all, just looks a bit odd :P

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 16:58
by unpossible
Cabbage wrote:Just a small thing, noticed the mininukes from the Liche don't seem to deform the terrain at all, just looks a bit odd :P
is that due to the AOE being rather small and the large deformation from a powerful exposion would look a little weird?

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 17:34
by Cabbage
The AoE isn't that small, but i mean there is ZERO terrain deformation when the weapon hits :P

Just played a mad game on a really soft map, the whole thing ended up like a nuclear testing ground, but when someonje send a few waves of liches, not a single one did any terrain damage.

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 17:35
by Caydr
You mean the way that the advanced bombs magically guide themselves into a straight line most of the time, even though I've specifically scripted and modeled that unit to drop them in a dispersion pattern? Yeah, that shouldn't happen.

I'd complain about it, except that AA's the only mod with a unit like this, and there's only two of them... so maybe sometime in the future I'll see if it's possible to get fixed.

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 17:36
by Molloy
Anybody else hate the concept of these shields? If you want to counter Berthas you should have to bomb them or counter them with berthas. This just adds another gimmicky layer of complexity. Feels very overcooked.

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 17:37
by Cabbage
shields are fine

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 17:38
by Caydr
They're a replacement for bertha walls which don't work well in Spring.

About anti-nukes, it's possible scarab antinukes have a problem... I'll check them.

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 18:13
by Egarwaen
Molloy wrote:Anybody else hate the concept of these shields? If you want to counter Berthas you should have to bomb them or counter them with bombers. This just adds another gimmicky layer of complexity. Feels very overcooked.
Dude, as I explained to you in-game: two Berthas drop one fast, three drop them in no time at all.

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 20:45
by Caydr
It is also highly vulnerable to all the usual suspects, for instance bombing. And don't forget that it explodes like a nuke, or at least it explodes pretty big last I checked.

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 21:56
by Drone_Fragger
And peewees eat them pretty fast too :D

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 22:05
by Comp1337
Isnt the damage taken the factor that takes them down? In that case PWs would suck at taking them down..

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 22:56
by unpossible
Comp1337 wrote:Isnt the damage taken the factor that takes them down? In that case PWs would suck at taking them down..
i thinik he meant once they get through the shield and shoot it from the inside

Posted: 02 Jul 2006, 23:35
by Drone_Fragger
Actaully, I meant it that peewees are cheap, SPammable and easy to swarm with. Shields try to block it, but they fire so fast the shield gets worn down prewtty fast.

Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 00:24
by Comp1337
Vipers EAT PWs...

Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 01:30
by Egarwaen
Comp1337 wrote:Vipers EAT PWs...
As do LLTs, HLTs, HLLTs, Beamers, Pitbulls, and, in fact, anything more threatening than a Goomba.

Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 02:15
by esteroth12
i once saw a single AK destroy:

3 solars
3 mexxes
1 KBotlab
2 peewees
and do 200 damage on a comm

(ok, the comm did more damage using the DGun than the AK, but whatever :P)

Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 02:18
by SwiftSpear
esteroth12 wrote:i once saw a single AK destroy:

3 solars
3 mexxes
1 KBotlab
2 peewees
and do 200 damage on a comm

(ok, the comm did more damage using the DGun than the AK, but whatever :P)
It was 2 ak's but one died to commlazer right away, the other one ran in circles around stuff and took out the guy's whole base. Lesson learned: LLT's are nessicary.

Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 02:42
by Caydr
Goombas!

Umm... ok, not sure if this is what he meant exactly, but a peewee does 106 damage per second, compared with a bertha's 170ish. So yes, 10 or so of these all shooting at the shield would have it down in no time flat.

Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 03:10
by Egarwaen
Caydr wrote:Umm... ok, not sure if this is what he meant exactly, but a peewee does 106 damage per second, compared with a bertha's 170ish. So yes, 10 or so of these all shooting at the shield would have it down in no time flat.
Though they'd also be much more vulnerable to counter-fire from anything sitting behind the shield. Like, say, an HLT. So in practice, it's not usually an effective counter.