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Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 11:28
by KDR_11k
Perhaps all the good players read this thread, know that you can't deal with comnapping and do it because of that?

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 12:21
by drolito
if it's true i hope they go to play with others "good" players to do that or they stop fuck noobs parties as they do lot of the time !!!

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 17:25
by 1v0ry_k1ng
tombom wrote:
1v0ry_k1ng wrote:
well the reason I play BA is pretty much because in XTA the units are too big and can't be properly microed.
but you cant properly micro BA units because you have so many and indivually they are worthless...
For crying out loud.

Can you read the thread? Your pointless BA bashing is just ridiculous anyway, never mind how stupid it looks to post after the guy who posted it said he was joking.
woh I wasnt bashing or anything. I was just saying that I usualy have big gangs of gator and riot tanks so not much micro is possible beyond setting a hotkey to "select all units on less that 50% health" to pull out crippled boys, and making sure the lads are heading in the right direction and not bunching up.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 19:35
by LordMatt
drolito wrote:Com end suck ... its not the same battle ... if u play com end when one player is dead its end if he was a strategic point of defense ... i have another good solution for that : dont play with those who have already done this sort of thing in my game ...
Being a nub sucks: You have to post tonnes of threads complaining about how all good players are meanies cause they call you nub and use advanced tactics to pwn you easily, and threads about how units are unbalanced because good players pwn you with them. In addition, since all your friends in the game are nubs, you have to rely on them as allies, and must post additional threads complaining about team stacking and how the nubishness of your allies is exploited by decent players. You abhor such games as 1v1s on decent non-porcy non-GF/SM maps with appropriate game settings, such as com ends and thus never gain any actual skill at the game. LIFE SUX 2 BE NUB, DON'T BE ONE! :P

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 19:51
by tombom
Drolito isn't actually too bad a player, he just doesn't like gamey tactics. A lot of people are like that.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 20:22
by manored
In fact, drolito aparears to be a noob because he talks like a noob :P, but he is a nice player.

Combombing is not a advanced tactic, its a overpowered tactic like Krogoth spam.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 20:29
by Masse
all im gonna say here is all that is possible in game/mod is "legal"
if u want to combomb just go ahead if its possible... if that would be considered as a bad tactic it woulda been made impossible todo it allready ;)

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 20:33
by KDR_11k
manored wrote:Combombing is not a advanced tactic, its a overpowered tactic like Krogoth spam.
Overpowered? It's not overpowered unless it has much higher chances for victory than other strategies and Krogoth spam doesnt have much of a chance at that.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 20:53
by 1v0ry_k1ng
Being a nub sucks: You have to post tonnes of threads complaining about how all good players are meanies cause they call you nub and use advanced tactics to pwn you easily, and threads about how units are unbalanced because good players pwn you with them. In addition, since all your friends in the game are nubs, you have to rely on them as allies, and must post additional threads complaining about team stacking and how the nubishness of your allies is exploited by decent players. they abhor such games as 1v1s on decent non-porcy non-GF/SM maps with appropriate game settings, such as com ends and thus never gain any actual skill at the game. LIFE SUX 2 BE NUB, DON'T BE ONE! :P
true about noobs playing with noobs and refusing to play with decent settings and never getting a good game, but drolito does play on decent settings too

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 20:55
by Peet
LordMatt wrote:Being a nub sucks: You have to post tonnes of threads complaining about how all good players are meanies cause they call you nub and use advanced tactics to pwn you easily, and threads about how units are unbalanced because good players pwn you with them.
heh, QFFT.

moreover u are a funny man : i have never play with u so u dont know how i fight
Drolito, I havent played with you, but every word you type screams nub.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 21:14
by flop
P3374H wrote:
LordMatt wrote:Being a nub sucks: You have to post tonnes of threads complaining about how all good players are meanies cause they call you nub and use advanced tactics to pwn you easily, and threads about how units are unbalanced because good players pwn you with them.
heh, QFFT.

moreover u are a funny man : i have never play with u so u dont know how i fight
Drolito, I havent played with you, but every word you type screams nub.
He isnt that bad, hes just an angry frenchman.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 03:29
by SwiftSpearNotHome
Holy christ. Someone needs to write a tutorial on how to build an argument without ad hominems...

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 03:33
by Peet
...we're in an argument? I have yet to derive a coherent central argument from this topic :P

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 03:52
by SwiftSpearNotHome
P3374H wrote:...we're in an argument? I have yet to derive a coherent central argument from this topic :P
Yes. Basicly it goes "hey guys, you should do a bunch of this ethical stuff!", and then everyone else goes "you're wrong because ZOMG NEWB!"

It's like watching children in a sandbox...

If someone says something stupid/wrong, calling them stupid/newb doesn't show them why they are wrong, and effectively you lose...

In this case comm bombing. No, it's not unbalanced. No, it's not a newb tactic. If you are a good player you most likely should have the air defence to counter a comm bomb. For the love of god, all you need is 3 missle towers. Yes, you can get them up before the air fac and atlas is finished if you go kbot or vec. I find it stupid that you say you know who the players who use the strat are and you still lose to it. You're not a good player if all you know how to do is atlas bomb, granted. It will be countered and you will lose the majority of the time. But, that doesn't mean using an atlas bomb occationally is newb, or a bad strat in general. This is true of any other strat, you're not a good player if all you know how to do is bomber rush, or all you know how to do is nuke rush, or krogoth rush. All strats are counterable, comm bombing is no different. It's just another strat.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 05:03
by jackalope
The most intelligent thing posted in this thread was when Nixa mentioned the com loses a lot of value after about 8 minutes. I would add to this by saying that as time goes on your com becomes less and less valuable as a fighting unit, builder and even as a bomb (as the enemy will build more and more AA). So basically at some point in the game you should think about if it would be good to bomb, where you should do it, and how will you follow it up so that the enemy doesn't eat his body.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 05:35
by LordMatt
LOL swifty is back for another hit of spring forums crack. Psst, u know the REALLY good stuff is in #sy. ;)

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 08:49
by KDR_11k
Well, we had a big discussion about implementing upgrades, i.e. how to make sure the com doesn't get useless after 8 minutes and all the *A players complained that we're going to ruin their favourite mod.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 11:51
by drolito
Thanks manored, tombom and even flop to defend me :D

But it's not for me that i make this thread ... i am never combombed because i know how to defend against ... im not comnapped for the same raison and i know to move my com when atlas come ...
But we dont always play with players who know that ...

now i have understand : at all the beginning i say : "make a Laser quick men" and after 2 mn i say "dont forget AA" ... but some players dont react ... and sometimes players profite about that ...

But the only thing is to think about all players in the game if they want to see that sort of thing or if it is only funny for u ... next time u want to make bad thing, think about that before please and dont do it ...

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 12:55
by KDR_11k
It would technically be possible to prevent the com from exploding while loaded but I think most BA players like the mod the way it is, with combombing and all that jazz.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 14:50
by Zpock
manored wrote:Combombing is not a advanced tactic, its a overpowered tactic like Krogoth spam.
ROFL