Spring RTS Engine

For all the stupids guys who think they are better :

1) Speed metal is a map and if a player like to play on i don't understand why u say : "he sucks" ... this is the most played map ... so respect it !!!

2) Maybe u think your mod is better than others ... i have try plenty mods and I PREFERE BA ... XTA is the second for me ... all the players play them maybe it's because they are good mod ?

3) Stop thinking you're the best, your maps are the best, your mod is the best, your gameplay is the best ... the best is to have fun with Spring and all the players on each map with each mods have fun !!!

So let them play what they want !!!

1) read the thread before opening your mouth
2) read the thread before opening your mouth
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drolito wrote:1) Speed metal is a map and if a player like to play on i don't understand why u say : "he sucks" ... this is the most played map ... so respect it !!!

We hate Speed Metal because it completely wrecks the balancing of ANY mod. It's too large to allow for harrassment or even LRPCs, it has too much metal to make a sane economy work and it is the chokepointiest map ever made which makes it way too easy to know where the enemy is going to come from and makes the only viable unit choice big superunits that can fit enough firepower on the small bridge to deal with the defenses placed on the much larger area behind it. Speedmetal completely destroys any semblance of economy or tech levels. It has no tactical options beyond "Do I nuke him or do I superunit rush him?" and most mods are balanced for tactics that don't work on speedmetal. Also AFAIK the map slows units down which again breaks the balancing of a mod since the speeds were tested and balanced already.

That's why we hate Speed Metal, because it completely rapes the gameplay of our mods.

it speeds them up kdk... which of course is just as bad.

smoth wrote:1) read the thread before opening your mouth
2) read the thread before opening your mouth
3) read the thread before opening your mouth

If you want people discuss correctly, you should put more than one image and one word to your first post. -.-

I still dont understand what makes you so mad if people plays speedmetal? Let them play whatever they want, imagine if you were whining everyone who plays crappy game on the world, just because you dont like it... i think you would be very busy with that :D there must be more than million dudes who plays shitty games...

Or imagine if those all speedmetal players has made up own server, and you dont know about it... what you gonna do!?

And no, people dont think that speedmetal is only map...

It actually isn't the most popular map. Here's the autohost top ten:
1. Altored_Divide.smf (204 games, for total 5d 11h 31m - average game took 38m and had 8 players)
2. Tangerine.smf (132 games, for total 4d 6h 56m - average game took 46m and had 8 players)
3. Small Supreme Battlefield V2.smf (107 games, for total 3d 2h 18m - average game took 41m and had 8 players)
4. Small Supreme Battlefield.smf (104 games, for total 2d 15h 54m - average game took 36m and had 6 players)
5. SmallDivide.smf (102 games, for total 1d 13h 2m - average game took 21m and had 3 players)
6. Green_Fields.smf (40 games, for total 1d 11h 34m - average game took 53m and had 8 players)
7. Small Supreme Islands V2.smf (37 games, for total 1d 5h 0m - average game took 47m and had 8 players)
8. SpeedMetal.smf (35 games, for total 22h 22m - average game took 38m and had 4 players)
9. Castles.smf (49 games, for total 17h 59m - average game took 22m and had 5 players)
10. Tropical.smf (20 games, for total 15h 7m - average game took 45m and had 8 players)

the BA autobot?
those are like the 10 worst maps...

tombom, 5 of the XTA autohosters have dummy speedmetal files so nobody ever syncs with the host and the host crashes out immediatly. I am also aware of several other instance sof autohosters where the hoster has taken measures to ban speedmetal.


However may I say that I am surprised that IMSabbel came out of hiding and posted an unprovoked atatck yet for the first time in almost 2 years this attack was not aimed specifically at me. Indeed the daffodils do look lovely!

Trademark, I understand that english may be your second language, but using profanity and saying someone is whining is not a good way to talk to them. By your sentence structure I can tell you have an understanding on the english language. Are you being rude or is it that you do not understand it well enough to structure a sentence in a more polite manor?



Also to the naysayers, yeah, the thread worked because people are talking about speedmetal and what some other options are. It is still here and growing, so the thread was a success.

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:the BA autobot?
those are like the 10 worst maps...

No it's every autohost ever. Also it doesn't matter if they have dummy speedmetal files, it still counts as a game. Really speedmetal is not that common nowadays.

Most speedmetallers host themselves and the dummy files mean they aren't going to use an autohost. Or do you think they're too stupid to figure out that autohosts won't handle Speedmetal?

speedMetal players dont know what an Autohost is ... u can count when u want the games played ... u will see speedmetal is the most played map !!!

Stop to be ridiculous men : if players want to do others map or mod than u ... let them ...

You have not the good-game monopoly !!!

moreover, remember that 90% of the players have begin by play 1 or 2 monthes on speedmetal ... so its the best map because it gives players envy to play Spring !!!

- no need to insult people, mod - and SpeedMetal is very good !!!

smoth wrote:Are you being rude or is it that you do not understand it well enough to structure a sentence in a more polite manor?

No.. im not trying to being rude, reason might be that i dont know enough synonyms for every word, so i use that which i know.

I dont understand whats so hard in that word, in finnish that word aint gonna hurt anyone, or at least not me. Dunno whats wrong with you people when you take words so hard. Words shouldnt hurt

Just read the concept of the text, dont read each word as its exact meaning, then you might understand me...

KDR_11k wrote:Most speedmetallers host themselves and the dummy files mean they aren't going to use an autohost. Or do you think they're too stupid to figure out that autohosts won't handle Speedmetal?

ugh, I was just using it as an example of how SpeedMetal isn't that popular anymore. If you ever visit the lobby, SpeedMetal pales in comparison to the amount of games on Altored Divide, as an example. It really isn't that big a deal.

Also TradeMark: what you said was fine don't worry about it.

5 Altored divide ... 15 speedmetal ... its sure ... thats the same :D

Speedmetal is a phase in playing spring, like sending stupid forwards is a phase in having email. Everyone has played a few games on it. I played it when it first came out. It makes the game simpler. Easier to comprehend. It wrecks balance, but that is WHY the noobs play it. They want a simpler game. Once they understand why speedmetal is different (which is inevitable once they get curious about other maps), they start to understand why speedmetal sucks.

If you don't have to think about economy at all, and you don't have to worry about more than krogoths, nukes, or planes, then it's easier to figure out basic things like how to assist build and queue orders. These players will grow up, move on, and become normal players. Abusing them verbally (or textually) is as stupid as flaming a noob because they can't host properly. It hurts the community because it robs us of new players.

Quick count of the active games: 2 Altored Divide, 5 Speed Metal, 3 Green Fields

I never ever played speedmetal, and I count myself as a n00b, really. Not that it matters... Just leave it alone, it's a different game, just like rocket arena for quake is a simplification of (team) deathmatch.

Funny numbers...

AF wrote:tombom, 5 of the XTA autohosters have dummy speedmetal files so nobody ever syncs with the host and the host crashes out immediatly. I am also aware of several other instance sof autohosters where the hoster has taken measures to ban speedmetal.

That would actually be 3 of em, the [WG] ones, but we removed that cause the whining got annoying. Considering reinstating the ban though.