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Posted: 16 Aug 2006, 21:04
by BvDorp
For clarity: there's nothing illegal being done by spreading XTA with Spring. We require users to have the original data, so there's no problem at all in including XTA or AA. Stop acting like there is, please!

nuff said

Posted: 16 Aug 2006, 21:11
by AF
but we are

we're distributing copyrighted content without permission, and although we ask that users have the OTA data we're not ensuring it, we're instead providing the data we ask that they own.


So while that stands there are lots and lots of websites that refuse to acknowledge this project, several linux distributions who would distribute spring but wont because of the XTA content, there is a heck of a lot of potential in spring that isnt there because of the insistence of keeping XTA with the installer.

XTA should be a seperate download

Posted: 16 Aug 2006, 22:14
by Tobi
BvDorp, what you say is bullshit IMHO: if I upload a windows torrent and put a notice somewhere that you must own windows to install it then it isn't suddenly legal. Same applies to any copyright violation, it doesn't matter if it's XTA, Windows or some random mp3 you're distributing, adding a notice that you must own the original doesn't make it any less illegal then it is.

(Otherwise everyone would be allowed to redistribute everything by just putting a notice on it that you must own the original to download it. If that was the truth anti piracy organisations wouldn't exist.)

Conclusion: I fully agree with AF here.

Posted: 17 Aug 2006, 23:07
by diggz2k
So how goes the sync troubleshooting?

Posted: 18 Aug 2006, 11:48
by Tim Blokdijk
diggz2k wrote:So how goes the sync troubleshooting?
Tobi just asked (in the mailinglist) if his work could be included in trunk, the choice is whether we merge now or after the next release.

Posted: 18 Aug 2006, 12:10
by clericvash
Merge now, or else that is another many months of no play for linux users and all hollows work on a lobby will be for nothing.

Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 21:53
by cain
just for information: has sync been tested with all optimizations off?

Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 22:18
by Tobi
For gcc I don't really remember, and it doesn't really matter anyway since it works now.

For MSVC it could be an idea but I heard a debugging build was almost unplayable slow, so not sure if it will work.

Also, for information of people reading this thread, branches/tvo3 has been merged into trunk. So if you want to test, just test trunk.

Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 22:53
by cain
just because I was aware of some optimizations as -ffast-math that changes the outcoming of float operation

Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 22:55
by Tobi
Well, I did make sure none of those were used :wink: