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Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 13:18
by AF
If not a boost for ZK!
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 19:46
by PicassoCT
baaaaawww.. thats where that word comes from.
but.. but i only can play ba dsd- im srsly victory challenged. What shall i do.. if.. if there is a small.. a small game, on... a planetwars sever... with zero-k.. and nooooopooooeoeeooeoe dsd.
Its popeless, i shall ragequit spring.
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 20:24
by keijj0
just kill the 8v8+ autohosts and u will see increase in players
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 20:52
by AF
+1
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 23:22
by keijj0
like now there is 24 players + 16 specs in one goddamn dsd.. those would make 3-6 smaller games easy = more starting games = less waiting = more likely that new players will stick around cos they dont have to wait so much
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 00:24
by albator
keijj0 wrote:like now there is 24 players + 16 specs in one goddamn dsd.. those would make 3-6 smaller games easy = more starting games = less waiting = more likely that new players will stick around cos they dont have to wait so much
Yeah, if only:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26812
:p
There is never enough beating
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 01:52
by smoth
albator wrote:There is never enough beating
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 11:04
by Wombat
keijj0 wrote:just kill the 8v8+ autohosts and u will see increase in players
seeing 8v8dsd fanboys hosting 8v8dsd using relay will be fun.
inb4
1 month later
DEATH TO THE RELAYHOSTING *swings the torch*
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 12:44
by PicassoCT
spring has less-beean players? So this is why they didnt respond to my recent advances...
Srsly, the last time i checked on git, there were only about six or seven people playing spring in about three forks. This Game is dieing.
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 13:42
by Silentwings
I'd just like to add my voice (again) to the large number of people who think autohost with 8v8 are ok, but 8v8+ autohosts are damaging spring. See
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25870 for several reasons why.
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 16:24
by zerver
I agree that, with the current user base, 8v8+ may damage Spring. If we had 1000+ players every night, it would not.
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 17:28
by Forboding Angel
Can some mod please fix the grammar error in the topic title? It's driving me crazy.
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 19:38
by marciolino
+1
if we had a 10000 players community 8v8+ autohosts would not be a problem but reality is different!
I see everyday people discussing about 8v8+ hosts, but it seems to be just posts with no consequences.
Can we decide something? Cause this problem is kinda big problem.
Can we do something? Like ban autohosts with 28max players + x specs?
Can someone do this? Who has enough influence to decide this kind of changes?!!!
And technically could it be easily done by updating SPADS and forcing max 8v8 battle (@bibim ?)
Or it would be better if the official server to kick any 8v8+ autohost?
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 19:57
by Silentwings
As far as I can see, only the mod devs (via a lua limit) and the engine devs (via the old hardcoded limit) have the power actually change this.
Autohost owners are a fragmented community, and they would not be able to agree or enforce any change in player limits.
Re: Spring have less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 21:07
by bibim
marciolino wrote:
Can we do something? Like ban autohosts with 28max players + x specs?
Can someone do this? Who has enough influence to decide this kind of changes?!!!
And technically could it be easily done by updating SPADS and forcing max 8v8 battle (@bibim ?)
Or it would be better if the official server to kick any 8v8+ autohost?
Any of this is technically possible, but it's not the good way to deal with the issue...
Spring is an engine, some mods could be designed in a way 16v16 offers a correct gameplay (and actually I guess even BA could offer such a correct gameplay provided the map is big enough). So I don't think we should ban big battles at engine/lobby level.
I'm working on various changes in SPADS that should improve the situation (i.e., make it easier to avoid overcrowded battles), but don't expect radical change...
Re: Spring has less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 23:29
by Wombat
only i think that banning something just becouse its popular is stupid since the very beginning ?
i joined today for a while and had 2 non-12v12 games, yey me.
also its funny to see ppl complaining here playing 12v12dsd today
Re: Spring has less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 23:34
by smoth
I do agree with the sentiment of kicking some of these autohosts.. BA has a bewildering glut of autohosts which I think is a put off for ba players.
Re: Spring has less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 23:38
by smoth
just an FYI. the lobby right now...
no players my ass. this is a lot of games.
Re: Spring has less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 23:41
by Wombat
question - are you going to make 'ban humans qq' thread if someone host 12v12dsd ? becouse surely, someone will.
Re: Spring has less players
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 23:44
by smoth
Someone should totally get on that wombat. I swear to god, rather than playing BA these guys would much rather bitch about DSD..
I mean come on, there are at least 2 people bitching... that's a match right there.
less bitching more 1v1.