Spring RTS Engine

by face rendering, i mean that spring it acting as if my mesh is 1 face thick

like if you make a sphere and delete one of its faces and look through it, the bascks of the rest of the faces wont be visible, thats normal ofc, s3o doesnt render 2 sided faces, but with my model, all meshes that aren't buried inside another mesh are closed, yet still it misrenders.

IE ingame it shows only the faces behind the faces you're looking at for a few shapes...


confusing, I know, I'll post a pic eventually


also: this is my 1st model with a semi-decent reflection/glowmap. Expect preshading once its fully working ingame

along with a real texture

you probably inverted a few normals

how do I un-invert them? I've already tried "Recalculate Vertex Normals" to no avail.

by inverting again

turn "Cull faces" on in upspring (RMB on the viewport descriptor, i.e. 3D) to find them

Thank you so much, rattle! It works!



Now all I need to do is hack up some COB for it and make a *real* texture for it

The term for that(when it doesn't show the back of a poly) is that it has no backfaces.

Wasnt too impressed by the texture but hey they dont look half bad ingame

nice model but can you make it bigger

smoth wrote:The term for that(when it doesn't show the back of a poly) is that it has no backfaces.

Yay for learning!

daan 79 wrote:nice model but can you make it bigger

I could make it the size of a krogoth if i wanted too >_>
but it needs to be on par with the arm hlt

Sheekel wrote:Wasnt too impressed by the texture but hey they dont look half bad ingame

The version that's in CA right now features my first-ever texture with GREEBLES!
I'll see if I can get a screenshot...

EDIT:

I thought I had preshading...

if only I knew what preshading was...

Here's my tex2:



Although hoi recently told me that you said that tex2 is achieved by disabling blue channel on tex1 and changing values

Although hoi recently told me that you said that tex2 is achieved by disabling blue channel on tex1 and changing values

well actually smoth told me that you should make a texture 2 by using texture 1's green channel, don't know about the glow (red), but I assume it's the same.

smoth, could you explain it to midknight?

I said
# take texture 1 copy it
# select the green channel.
# paint black where you want no reflection.
# select the red channel, be sure to hide the green channel.
# paint anything you don't want to glow red.

- blue channel I usually paste a copy of the green channel in it for lulz.

Glow and Specular/reflective are not preshading.

Preshading means going with the assumption that there is a low level default lighting source to fake textural depth. Otherwise you get flat looking textures.

Example of preshading:
http://smoth.net/foram/download/file.ph ... &mode=view
Note how the magella sides have shadow on the bottom that is not done via in-engine shading or in-engine shadows.
http://smoth.net/foram/download/file.ph ... &mode=view
Or this gm which also uses preshading and in the shot is actually full bright with no shadows, see how the shield sides have shading.

If you keep a good number of masks which you can make selection masks from, or substract from others (like highly specular bits), then this becomes a rather simple process (tex2).
You can use that as an example

The preshading isn't exactly good but it's there...

Preshading goes in tex1, not tex2 (generally).

Saktoth wrote:Preshading goes in tex1, not tex2 (generally).

The exception being that, if you have an area where less light is hitting (due to it being a textured on inset or something) it will probably reflect alot less as well, and it certainly may glow less too.

@rattle: nice texture! Not only did it teach me about preshading, it also gave me some knowledge on how to pack details into small textures.

I also had previously thought preshading was all tex2 lol






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being the evil monster I am, I disregarded the results from the poll and made a core light gunship model! MWAHAHAHA!
the actual reason why i did a light gunship was because A: I think i need more experience before tackling bigger units, B: I had really good concept sketches for this guy, and C: sudden inspiration ;P

Although i do concept sketches for all my models, I made this one with the sketch actually in my lap (as opposed to in another room/building/state ), and I think it made quite a difference.


Without further ado: The Rapier mark II: possibly the Raven!

Render!

Top-down wireframe view


not UVmapped yet...

what do you think?

PS:appended HLT source to previous post

1) the fan blades are not evenly spaced
2) how the hell would that fly? with the fan at the back like that, the only thing i can see it doing is a (fairly comical) flip, using the front of the craft as a pivot.

The design looks similar (in concept at least) to the Combine gunship from HL2. Valve got away with such an improbably machine by making it look AWSEOME. no offence intended ofc, but yours seems to be somewhat lacking in that department.

that is a professional model!?!? HA HA HA

Pressure Line wrote:Valve got away with such an improbably machine

It has tiny wings that is uses to keep front end up. OBVIOUSLY.