Spring RTS Engine

pintle wrote:have you *seen* the weapon on the simbase com drolito? methinks you would love the mod

Ok i will host a big simbase battle this evening (I am very curious) ... which map and what number of players do u think is the best ?

Anything flat (NOT a metal map) and pretty much any number of players is good.

drolito wrote:play BA man : u will see its impossible to porc in this true mod ... you're all XTA players and speak about porcing : that's very funny ... when i play XTA i understand why u say that ... the games are always same in all the map : make T1 ... fight, fight ... and one make T2 before opponent and win !!!
hihihi ... BA mod make us to fight (use our com) and in altored divide u always loose if u dont have the middle control so u can't all porc !!! but it's in the true fight mod : BA

drolito wrote:No thanks : i am a commander fighter ... i loose lot of my parties cause i only use my com, build hlt, llt, guardian and other tourets for explose ennemies and forgot to make units :D
Commander is my favorite unit !!!

drolito wrote:

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:the reason most players like altored is because its chokepointed and has metal in the start areas, ie, lots of porcing and no risk of sneaky stuff, flanking or being attacked early/losing. long games are just a result of that

That's true and we like it ... any problem about that ?

so basicly, BA isnt impossible to porc and you dont even bother making units, only defences. I reckon you should pick a story and stick to it

P3374H wrote:

Pxtl wrote:If you want to play a SimBase-mod, then play a sim-base mod.

!!!! free promotion
http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/3000
http://xta.wolfgame.org/SimBase/SimBase_a25.1.sd7

I still can't find any information on what SimBase _is_ or how it plays besides "really porcy". Wiki plz.

check the xta forums, simbase is on that site somewhere too

Pxtl wrote:

P3374H wrote:

Pxtl wrote:If you want to play a SimBase-mod, then play a sim-base mod.

!!!! free promotion
http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/3000
http://xta.wolfgame.org/SimBase/SimBase_a25.1.sd7

I still can't find any information on what SimBase _is_ or how it plays besides "really porcy". Wiki plz.

I dont need no steenking wiki.
(if anyone wants to do one for me I'd approve though )

P3374H wrote:

Pxtl wrote:

P3374H wrote: !!!! free promotion
http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/3000
http://xta.wolfgame.org/SimBase/SimBase_a25.1.sd7

I still can't find any information on what SimBase _is_ or how it plays besides "really porcy". Wiki plz.

I dont need no steenking wiki.
(if anyone wants to do one for me I'd approve though )

You just want me to volunteer, don't you?

lol...was thinking more in terms of KDR or something, but go for it!

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:so basicly, BA isnt impossible to porc and you dont even bother making units, only defences. I reckon you should pick a story and stick to it

U haven't understand : I attack with tourets man ... :D ... dont make defense but put a hlt in range of llt and after a guardian in range of opponent defense is not porcing ... and its my strategy :D

Com under attack !!!

drolito wrote:

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:so basicly, BA isnt impossible to porc and you dont even bother making units, only defences. I reckon you should pick a story and stick to it

U haven't understand : I attack with tourets man ... :D ... dont make defense but put a hlt in range of llt and after a guardian in range of opponent defense is not porcing ... and its my strategy :D

Com under attack !!!

Like I said, that's not a very good strategy in BA. If you want to play a game that's not BA, then do so - make a mod or mutator for BA that plays the way you like. Expecting the honour-system to enforce the rules you made for yourself is only going to cause problems, because people join BA games expecting to play BA, not the derivitive you've chosen for yourself.

http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10739

that's for u pxtl :D ... for all the children like u ^^

I have never answer u if you're agree with my use of Spring ... but i think u have anything against me for sure :D

please ... please ... let me in peace and go to play SuckCom !!!

drolito wrote:http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10739

that's for u pxtl :D ... for all the children like u ^^

I have never answer u if you're agree with my use of Spring ... but i think u have anything against me for sure :D

please ... please ... let me in peace and go to play SuckCom !!!

Okay, I never insulted you and you call me a child. And you spam your arguments across two threads in two forums. And you seem incapable of typing correctly.

I wasn't even criticising your tastes. I was just suggesting that, if you want to play X, then you should make the game X rather than relying on spoken "rules", because those "rules" always just cause arguments and fights. You can argue with the host, but you can't argue with the game itself.

WTF is wrong with you?

Pxtl wrote:WTF is wrong with you?

see the other thread so, it speaks about u ...

Pxtl, drop it. You're not going to get anywhere with him.

Im also curious about this simbase. Its one of those mods that I dont find anywhere. Where can I find it?

And yeah spoken rules are trouble, so write then somewhere and make sure everone readed em BEFORE starting a game. Also, be ready to have a lot of discussion because if you write "airdropping commanders near the base is forbidden" some people WILL have a diferent idea of what is near of yours. Having someone spect the game and act as jugde sounds a good idea, but I fear that would have to be Drolito since he is the host and then he wouldt be able to play... :)

But you really should mod the mod. Removing the air transports from that match sounds good too: very few people use air transports on Altored other than for combombing and comdroping.

manored wrote:Im also curious about this simbase. Its one of those mods that I dont find anywhere. Where can I find it?

It's been quoted repeatedly in this thread, lol.
http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/3000

manored wrote: But you really should mod the mod. Removing the air transports from that match sounds good too: very few people use air transports on Altored other than for combombing and comdroping.

I disagree - I and many others use them for other things.

neddiedrow wrote:

manored wrote: But you really should mod the mod. Removing the air transports from that match sounds good too: very few people use air transports on Altored other than for combombing and comdroping.

I disagree - I and many others use them for other things.

I haven't tried it myself, but I'll bet it's pretty damned trivial to make a mutator where the Comm is untransportable.

Reducing the diversity of play is a hard point to sell a discerning player on. The use of a commander as a weapon is risky and considerably expensive, and the dangers of transport for other purposes weigh favourably against the possible benefits.

neddiedrow wrote:Reducing the diversity of play is a hard point to sell a discerning player on. The use of a commander as a weapon is risky and considerably expensive, and the dangers of transport for other purposes weigh favourably against the possible benefits.

I didnt understood if you are defending transports or killing em... maybe both :)

Maybe making it that the commander doesnt com explodes if a transport he was in is destroyed, so if you manage to land on the enemy base you have as much right as if you were making a gunships raid. That would also solve the com's napping trouble.