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Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 18:53
by ginekolog
Posted: 03 Apr 2006, 13:08
by PauloMorfeo
mongus wrote:...
queen angel??? er.. please put complete known names there!
Forboding Angel?...
It wasn't me who updated the wiki. I was so willing to just go away that i forgot completely about the wiki.
Anyway, it is only Angel. Runs by the name PRO_[Angel], but i think you already figured that out.
Kixxe wrote:...
I know, i had have many complaints about this map and other metal maps, but the qwestion is, where to draw the line?
If i ban speedmetal, there are still maps like CPIA, Maze concept and other highmetal maps. Ban all metal maps? What about Metalheck? ...
I know all that. But i still wanted to complain about the map.
Anyway, about the maps, i think there is a line easy to draw between some maps. They are Speedmetal and Shore to Shore. The line is easy to draw because, unless the players are very unbalanced, they are impossible to win.
I know that, for example CPIA, sucks for .. anything else than unbalanced teams or powerpoint slideshows but it is perfectly winnable. LRPCs reach the other side, ground breaking is perfectly possible, etc. No matter how bad a map is, if it is winnable it is one thing. But Speedmetal and Shore to Shore are, most certainly, an endless stalemate.
Of course banning Speedmetal and Shore to Shore from the titles are hard to swallow, especially for, for example, Angel which is a specialist of Speedmetal playing it very well (i've seen him (her?) own 3 others in a 3v1) but beeing them a possibility .. i don't know how good that is.
And about the rules for chalenges in KoXTA, good to see that they have been updated. It has been causing lots of confusion. In my kingdomship, i remember that some times i was choosing map, other times the chalenger was.
Posted: 04 Apr 2006, 14:25
by bamb
post demos please (it says so in the thread topic). There are very few AA demos for 0.70b3.
Posted: 06 Apr 2006, 18:41
by Drawer
Few issues me as a the queen want to address over:
About king com bombing:
If you cant handle all means of fighting back - dont challenge me on small maps, play something big where i or other kings cant use com bombing to damage your com pushing strats. You get to choose the map - let me play the map so that i can win, dont expect me to surrender.
About speedmetal:
Learn to play the map so that you dont lose - if you cant do that, you dont deserve to stay a king for long.
But it dosent take any 5kills to beat me on speedmetal
Well then it should not take any skills to beat me on it.
Posted: 07 Apr 2006, 09:12
by gavan
Anyone who becomes king on an easy-metal map could lose it on a 'real' map.
Can the ones keeping scores of the King-Competitions also keep track of what maps the challenges were executed on, and put them in public viewing?
Problem solved

Posted: 07 Apr 2006, 18:02
by PauloMorfeo
I didn't understand very well your post but,
Drawer wrote:...
About speedmetal:
Learn to play the map so that you dont lose - if you cant do that, you dont deserve to stay a king for long.
...
Learn what you are talking about before saying such dumb things.
I lost the title of KoXTA in speedmetal because i resigned after i got severely bored of playing at 0.2 speed and playing with 4~8 frames per second.
I also add that who i was playing against was PRO_[Angel] which is a very good player at that specific map. Even beeing very good and even with me playing with 4~8 FPS, she didn't came any close of beating me. Nor i of beating her.
That would have only ended with either of us resigning or having a aneurism. I chose to resign.
And i have been saying this before i played that match and i say the same thing about Shore to Shore and i chalenge you to post any replay showing that Shore to Shore or Speedmetal is winnable in a 1v1 match in XTA with good players.
Once, i battled Shore to Shore in a 2v1 (me and Mong vs mother, all experienced players), because one droped, for more than 3 hours without the slightest sign of a possible breaking on any of the sides.
Posted: 07 Apr 2006, 20:47
by mongus
@PauloMorfeo, think drawer is Angel O_O
he has a dislike for small maps, he uses to command bomb the enemy in such maps,.. either that or its not him
why? .. well when i .. er ... won the title from him, he did comm bomb me.. (altougth i scaped =) )it was core faf, so its a small map. (latelly i think it has too much metal.. but its small, so you have more urgent issues and it keeps dinamic).
About s2s... its easy to reach that sad porcing state.
(we had a technical draw, (mother building nukes (10+) and we trying to take over with ships..).
It was fun game *sigh*
i recall mother making some fun trick.. he got the bombers out of the map and strike from outside... we managed to survive that attack too.
Altougth its a challenge to play it good.. i must say once i did finish it in like 15-20 minutes :D
You can try taking the small islands in front of the shores.. may be easy, then build amphib tanks, and hover mrls.... good luck.
pd: it was 4+ hrs.
Posted: 07 Apr 2006, 21:16
by Zenka
mongus wrote:@PauloMorfeo, think drawer is Angel O_O
he has a dislike for small maps, he uses to command bomb the enemy in such maps,.. either that or its not him
small note: Angel is a she.
understandable mistake though, since there arn't a lot of female players in Spring (or anywere).
But players always have a favorite map type, and map types where he/she plays worse. To be king for a long time, you have to be good on any type of map. So that's why the crown goes on and on...
Posted: 07 Apr 2006, 21:47
by PauloMorfeo
mongus wrote:@PauloMorfeo, think drawer is Angel O_O
...
Well then, show us that
PauloMorfeo wrote:... Shore to Shore or Speedmetal is winnable in a 1v1 match in XTA with good players.
...
I will keep serious doubts about that.
Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 01:08
by jellyman
Perhpas challenge has a time limit? If the game gets to 4 hours, then the king can declare a draw and keep the title.
Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 09:38
by SwiftSpear
PauloMorfeo wrote:
PauloMorfeo wrote:... Shore to Shore or Speedmetal is winnable in a 1v1 match in XTA with good players.
...
I will keep serious doubts about that.
Arguing with yourself again paulo?

Posted: 10 May 2006, 22:17
by Kixxe
haha! I, Anti_Kixxe has taken the crown from Sleksa on his own map of choice! (speedmetal, oddly)
Come on now, you filthy potato peelers! Bring it!
Posted: 11 May 2006, 17:00
by Hellspawn
There should be rule for no metal maps >_>.
Make King of metal for all those metal players -.- .
Posted: 11 May 2006, 21:00
by Drawer
Hellspawn wrote:There should be rule for no metal maps >_>.
Make King of metal for all those metal players -.- .
This has been already discussed extensivly
Posted: 11 May 2006, 22:52
by bamb
replays, replays!
Posted: 11 May 2006, 23:46
by Kixxe
bamb wrote:replays, replays!
Ugh, i rather not. I lost my crown in a most shamefull way. But i was reckless. And did'nt expect 12 storms to suddenly show up at my frontline JUST as i forgot to build E and stalls.

Posted: 16 May 2006, 00:01
by ginekolog
praise teh lord with crown of thrones
