Spring RTS Engine

BaNa wrote:I recall the levelers and gollies selfdamage got decreased at one point. (may be wrong about the golly) I would be for putting it back to full selfdam, as then the ultimate counter of just taking your cheap shit units in close would work better.

not decreased, but removed.

Johannes wrote: not decreased, but removed.

awwwwwwwwwwwwww

why? it used to make them so well counterable if opponent was stupid and you microd.

Yeah its a shit change....
Imo levies should totaly get a bit more speed but get self dmg back...would be a good idea for goliaths as well actually.

triton wrote:Missclic, I voted yes but I wanted to vote no ^^

That's fine then... I did it the other way

Conclusion of the vote is that about 2 third of players play arm, one third only play core.

Apply your modification and start a new arm vs core vote : you will get more than 2 third for am this time.

Its not about arm v core, its about balancing it without putting in loads of petty, shitty little nuisances that most people dont know about.

albator wrote:Conclusion of the vote is that about 2 third of players play arm, one third only play core.

Apply your modification and start a new arm vs core vote : you will get more than 2 third for am this time.

Wow what a ****** little core *****.
Same tune every day and every BA thread.Maybe give it a rest?
Arm llt shooting over solars is not gonna make ARM suddenly op.
Im not sure about this vote though...
I mean if voting is gonna rule over ba balance than cool but if shit is not gonna get implemented based on the vote results than why start a vote...

1) core gets buffs every release
2) im pretty sure majority of ppl play core
3) Llamadeus - if u suck, dont blame it on core. u clearly can be top spring player while playing core.

kkthxstfu

Wombat wrote: 3) Llamadeus

What?

what what ?

Where did llamadeus comment?

gave his name as top spring 1v1 player who is playing core..............

/ok 'used to' bu still, before all these ridiculous core buffs

Wombat wrote:

gave his name as top spring 1v1 player who is playing core..............

/ok 'used to' bu still, before all these ridiculous core buffs

What?

clearly kixu is top core player, llamadeus can fuck his llamas elsewhere

Arm vs Core has been pretty balanced for a long time. I alternate just about every game and it rarely makes a big difference.

Sucky_Lord wrote:clearly kixu is top core player, llamadeus can fuck his llamas elsewhere

llamadeus was better than kixu on 1v1.
Show me replay where you beat him to prove me I am wrong.

For team game kixu is better.

Wombat wrote:1) core gets buffs every release

~ Agree, but that is for reason...


Now, let talk about llt since I have post about that here yet :D
Just to take the particular case of 1v1 on veh map - let us say CCR to fix your mind :D - and I dont think any of the top 1v1 player will deny that: if you dont take the advantage using instigator, you will loose after 10 minutes cause stumpy are far better than raider.
I dont have so much problem with that since core can actually win using instigator.
But if llt fire above arm solar, the tactic consisting in porcing/expanding witout raiding become much more easier for arm.
Arm already has beamer as a really good defence btw, I dont understand why arm should become the porcier faction spamming the most metal-cost-effcient T1 unit: stumpy. It looks like a little bit core to me....

I don't see any reasons to change something that have proved to be balanced since several year just cause a majority of people - that think llama suck - will vote for it.

"democracy is the tyranny of incompetence"

This pool remind me the idea of nixa to make the balance of his mod basing on vox populi.

BaNa wrote:
eh, i always felt it was counter-intuitive to have the same sized solars for core and arm block llts differently.

I vote for change, this is only a nubtrap that makes no sense beyond arbitrary "it has always been so" logic.

+1

Physics should be obeyed properly where possible.

I got confused many times when I started spring. And starting with spring is hard enough looking to the many diffrent units and the masses/strategy in which you can make/use them.

Floris wrote:

BaNa wrote:
eh, i always felt it was counter-intuitive to have the same sized solars for core and arm block llts differently.

I vote for change, this is only a nubtrap that makes no sense beyond arbitrary "it has always been so" logic.

+1

Physics should be obeyed properly where possible.

Well that's where the current difference comes from, arm solar is physically larger...

Sucky_Lord wrote:clearly kixu is top core player, llamadeus can fuck his llamas elsewhere

as always u got no idea what are u talking about.

@ waldo - lol, i had no idea it looks so ridiculous. i wish i could vote 1 again