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Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 14:46
by Gota
PicassoCT wrote:Just one more reply and then i quit
We can all stop whenever we want to...

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 15:54
by PicassoCT
Take me to your healer

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 17:09
by Karl
It seems someone ran short out of money
or go to less attention damn how many dumb books are comming?

someone trys to get alot of money by making a book with ,,interresting questions&answers"

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 01:23
by dizekat
This is real research, folks. Based on brain scans while using internet
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7667610.stm

http://www.google.com/search?q=internet ... n+function
A University of California Los Angeles team found searching the web stimulated centres in the brain that controlled decision-making and complex reasoning.
...
As the brain ages, a number of changes occur, including shrinkage and reductions in cell activity, which can affect performance.
It has long been thought that activities which keep the brain active, such as crossword puzzles, may help minimise that impact - and the latest study suggests that surfing the web can be added to the list.
Watching a porn channel on TV is quite obviously far more passive activity, as far as brain use goes, than looking through thumbnails and picking what to watch and deciding what to save and how to organize the saves. Same goes for other, more useful sides of internet.

It's like an argument that bicycles are making people weaker because you can in principle get from point A to point B easier on bicycle than on foot. The fact is however that bicyclist is typically working out harder and goes longer distances using own muscles.

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 01:37
by dizekat
Panda wrote:Later on, everyone got scared of nuclear wars because scientists thought that something really horrible (much worse than what did happen) would happen if a nuclear bomb was set off. They thought that a bomb could cause a chain reaction in the atmosphere and set the world on fire.
Yes, they thought it might be a possibility, did the calculation, and calculated that it could not happen, and started exploding nukes for testing and you guys used two in the war (world war 2 was a nuclear war for a bit. You guys managed to test 2 nukes on japanese, first on some august 6, second on august 9, and Japan capitulated on august 14th. Thanks god you guys did not have a third nuke for testing, or at this rate 3 cities would have been destroyed).

It would of been truly moronic not to do that calculation. It's not like you could know something like that intuitively without calculating it, and only a true moron would trust the intuition that 'its impossible because it's impossible' and start blowing nukes without bothering to calculate. After the calculation was made, however, nothing stopped the testing of nukes of any type, including some truly enormous ones, during cold war. The fear of radioactive contamination did not stop the testing either, and as many nukes were tested total as could have been used in a world war.

Suppose there is an enormous ball made of frozen deuterium ice, and we explode a nuke on it's surface. Will it make enormously big thermonuclear kaboom or not? Don't know answer to this one for sure intuitively either, do you?

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 03:39
by Panda
dizekat wrote:
Panda wrote:Later on, everyone got scared of nuclear wars because scientists thought that something really horrible (much worse than what did happen) would happen if a nuclear bomb was set off. They thought that a bomb could cause a chain reaction in the atmosphere and set the world on fire.
Yes, they thought it might be a possibility, did the calculation, and calculated that it could not happen, and started exploding nukes for testing and you guys used two in the war (world war 2 was a nuclear war for a bit. You guys managed to test 2 nukes on japanese, first on some august 6, second on august 9, and Japan capitulated on august 14th. Thanks god you guys did not have a third nuke for testing, or at this rate 3 cities would have been destroyed).

It would of been truly moronic not to do that calculation. It's not like you could know something like that intuitively without calculating it, and only a true moron would trust the intuition that 'its impossible because it's impossible' and start blowing nukes without bothering to calculate. After the calculation was made, however, nothing stopped the testing of nukes of any type, including some truly enormous ones, during cold war. The fear of radioactive contamination did not stop the testing either, and as many nukes were tested total as could have been used in a world war.

Suppose there is an enormous ball made of frozen deuterium ice, and we explode a nuke on it's surface. Will it make enormously big thermonuclear kaboom or not? Don't know answer to this one for sure intuitively either, do you?
:o Fat makes you think strange things too.

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 13:06
by Gota
Wait wait..
Is this gonna be a thread about blaming USA for dropping 2 nukes on japan now?

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 06:36
by dizekat
also on topic of guys playing WoW instead of working as farmers, this is caused by all the machines used in farming, not by computers. Only a tiny fraction of people need to be farmers now. And the manufacturing has all moved to China, and even if it had not, it would have been largely automated anyway. This prevalence of idle lifestyle and the economic situation in third world has very little to do with computers.

If something, computers are a smarter option. I earn a living doing game programming nowadays. It is most definitely hard work, I have to be quite good at applied mathematics and similar topics. I used to do 3d graphics for TV before. If not for computers, the entertainment industry jobs would have been a LOT dumber; and the other jobs wouldn't have been any smarter or numerous. Today's stupid movie supports a lot of hard working, intelligent people. Yesterday's stupid movie mostly supported just the star actors, and it was not paying them to be particularly smart.

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 09:51
by Karl
The ,,science" found this and found thas

how many tester was involved? if its low
then their argument is invalid

its sad to see they use low amount of testers just to increase their ,argument"

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 15:16
by TradeMark
Karl, why are you putting the first quotemark under? looks like typo, but you have done it 10 times by now...

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 16:49
by SinbadEV
TradeMark wrote:Karl, why are you putting the first quotemark under? looks like typo, but you have done it 10 times by now...
I was assuming his first language was one of those that does quotes differently... like Bulgarian, Czech, Estonian, Georgian, German, Icelandic, Lithuanian... and the list goes on...

the list is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_ ... lish_usage

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 17:10
by TradeMark
lol, why i have never seen that before... IMO people should write with english writing rules on an english board... i mean, ¿do you want to see all kind of styles in writing here or what? yeah... ¡sure!

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 17:18
by SinbadEV
TradeMark wrote:lol, why i have never seen that before... IMO people should write with english writing rules on an english board... i mean, ¿do you want to see all kind of styles in writing here or what? yeah... ¡sure!
Look! the Internet just made TradeMark smarter! Thread finished due to empirical evidence disproving initial hypothesis.

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 01:25
by dizekat
SinbadEV wrote:
TradeMark wrote:lol, why i have never seen that before... IMO people should write with english writing rules on an english board... i mean, ¿do you want to see all kind of styles in writing here or what? yeah... ¡sure!
Look! the Internet just made TradeMark smarter! Thread finished due to empirical evidence disproving initial hypothesis.
hahaha

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 01:27
by dizekat
Even UK English has 2 different quotations for open/close quote, it's just that nobody does it in practice when posting on intertubes. Or, for that matter, when using typewriter.

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 01:38
by TradeMark
dizekat wrote:Even UK English has 2 different quotations for open/close quote, it's just that nobody does it in practice when posting on intertubes. Or, for that matter, when using typewriter.
you mean ÔÇ£ like this ÔÇØ ? yeah finnish too, but nobody really uses those, only in newspapers lol.

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 04:03
by SinbadEV
TradeMark wrote:
dizekat wrote:Even UK English has 2 different quotations for open/close quote, it's just that nobody does it in practice when posting on intertubes. Or, for that matter, when using typewriter.
you mean ÔÇ£ like this ÔÇØ ? yeah finnish too, but nobody really uses those, only in newspapers lol.
I think there's a setting in Office 2007 that makes matched "simple" quotes turn into the 66 and 99 kind.

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 12:40
by PicassoCT
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 4&start=80

This topic is now crosswired- step lightly upon it. ;)

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 14:47
by Karl
lol thread railing

Re: Is the Internet making us stupid?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 16:02
by TradeMark
┬┐what does 66railing99 mean?