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Johannes wrote:

SinbadEV wrote:Oh, I forgot to mention... make sure you have established a long term relationship by the time you reach the end of your formal education because the difficulty in finding excuses to meet people increases dramatically from that point on.

You need excuses to meet people?

I believe you may be attacking my wording rather then my meaning but I figured I'd get that out of the way first.

After college you still have options, for example bars, clubs, your workplace, church and other organized religion based gatherings, comic book stores, the produce section of super markets, parties etc... but these avenues were all available to students in addition to dorms, classes, cafeterias etc. and far fewer trips to bars, clubs and parties etc.

If you were attacking my choice of words. No, if you want to be literal, I don't need an "excuse" to meet people. But it helps to have a "context" in which to meet people, especially for introverted people.

I currently have 4 (essential) categories of friends, College and School Friends, Former and Current Workplace/Commitee Friends, Friends of Other Friends or Family Members, and Church Friends. I have never befriended someone on the street and none of my "Neighbour" friends continued to be my friends after I moved... I have never made a friend at a Bar or Club, I have only made a few friends at Parties and these were always "friends of friends"... I did make some friends at camp, but it was church camp so they are basically church friends... and people don't tend to go to camp much in their 20s... Also consider it is considered taboo to date co-workers in most work-places in north America (ignoring unskilled labour, retail and food service etc.).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the available contexts to meet single people (and the number of single people your age) drops significantly when you leave formal education.

Insecurities ftl, its as simple as that. You can try all you like but you'll never marry a chicken kiev and have tastey breadcrumb coated children with insecurities

Wait a second... this "nice guy" definition sounds very much like codependency disorder:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency

"Narcissists are considered to be natural magnets for the codependent."

nuff said.

TradeMark wrote:Wait a second... this "nice guy" definition sounds very much like codependency disorder:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency

"Narcissists are considered to be natural magnets for the codependent."

nuff said.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you to some extent there...

Any particular advice for my "Codependent Nice Guy" friend who also happens to be a "Narcissistic Arsehole"... So far I've just been playing the "Marriage Sucks, your better off alone" angle because otherwise I wouldn't have anyone to watch Dr. Who with and talk to about geeky math stuff with.

Fun Fact: if you fail the personality test e-harmony refunds you money!

SinbadEV wrote:

Johannes wrote:

SinbadEV wrote:Oh, I forgot to mention... make sure you have established a long term relationship by the time you reach the end of your formal education because the difficulty in finding excuses to meet people increases dramatically from that point on.

You need excuses to meet people?

I believe you may be attacking my wording rather then my meaning but I figured I'd get that out of the way first.

After college you still have options, for example bars, clubs, your workplace, church and other organized religion based gatherings, comic book stores, the produce section of super markets, parties etc... but these avenues were all available to students in addition to dorms, classes, cafeterias etc. and far fewer trips to bars, clubs and parties etc.

If you were attacking my choice of words. No, if you want to be literal, I don't need an "excuse" to meet people. But it helps to have a "context" in which to meet people, especially for introverted people.

I currently have 4 (essential) categories of friends, College and School Friends, Former and Current Workplace/Commitee Friends, Friends of Other Friends or Family Members, and Church Friends. I have never befriended someone on the street and none of my "Neighbour" friends continued to be my friends after I moved... I have never made a friend at a Bar or Club, I have only made a few friends at Parties and these were always "friends of friends"... I did make some friends at camp, but it was church camp so they are basically church friends... and people don't tend to go to camp much in their 20s... Also consider it is considered taboo to date co-workers in most work-places in north America (ignoring unskilled labour, retail and food service etc.).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the available contexts to meet single people (and the number of single people your age) drops significantly when you leave formal education.

I agree with you, that it is probably harder to meet people who you can date after college because of fewer opportunities to meet with people.

I think the nice guy could be replaced by a "insecure guy trying to act nice and secure" which would make more sense to me. I dont see any way for a nicely behaving secure guy to fail just because he isnt talking gangsta or smacking bitches yo

What? I disagree with opening post. I think nice guys do get girls :)

That's why I always try to control my rage when I meet new people and never ever break things or kill innocent animals in front of them.

Now shutup bitches and do something useful!

panda is useful and now that the semester is over she can make me sammiches and feed me so I can sit and code gundam all smelly like. :)

smoth wrote:panda is useful ... all smelly like. :)

What, no sponge baths?

Sucks to have grown up in such a hostile school environment like you describe smoth.

I retract what I said previously and change it to the following:

ITT: American(Canada is in there too) school system failure hindsight from victims.

smoth wrote:panda is useful and now that the semester is over she can make me sammiches and feed me so I can sit and code gundam all smelly like. :)

Breaking news: girls like dicks.

jaz is not girl ! >:(

luckywaldo7 wrote:Breaking news: girls like dicks.

BINGO ding ding ding ding

this, but I also still like if a gentleman holds the door open for me and all that :)

Problem is that virtual do-goods and do-bests, dont get appreciated in courtship rituals.

"You drive nice car." does impress.

"You coded nice software." does not.

Panda = nerd, nerd != female, therefore your counterargument = false.

Regret wrote:

smoth wrote:the idea is to discuss why nice guys don't get girls and also that being an asshole is not the answer, just that the assholes are confident.

I guess you have quite a different culture over there. I have never met your stereotypical "nice guy".

Exactly my problem, I think.

Selfquote:

Machete234 wrote: I mean some guys are too good for this world but for most of the people this advice to not be a nice guy isnt really good.
Because 95% are not too nice and arent door mats.

The problem is that nice guys think girls are nice. They are not, not voluntarily, and you will realize this soon, they always have a knife to stick into the next girls back.

Girls simulate niceness because the looser of the social game gets fed to the wolfes when a crisis approaches (that are humans by now, but still) So if a guy is nice, he is automatically associated with the next nice thing, which is usually a backstabbing bitch, that claims to be your best friend ever. Its basically a coldwar scenario, everybody is shaking hands, and smiling a lot, hoping if he never lets go of the others hands, he cant press the button.

And the nice guy busts into this freezing over party, taking the masquerade for real and showing zero social skillz by the way.

PicassoCT wrote:The problem is that nice guys think girls are nice. They are not, not voluntarily, and you will realize this soon, they always have a knife to stick into the next girls back.

Girls simulate niceness because the looser of the social game gets fed to the wolfes when a crisis approaches (that are humans by now, but still) So if a guy is nice, he is automatically associated with the next nice thing, which is usually a backstabbing bitch, that claims to be your best friend ever. Its basically a coldwar scenario, everybody is shaking hands, and smiling a lot, hoping if he never lets go of the others hands, he cant press the button.

And the nice guy busts into this freezing over party, taking the masquerade for real and showing zero social skillz by the way.

We should make a God of you in this community. You can make the funniest posts, and, like this one, the most truthful posts :)