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Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 20:21
by manored
Well all acidents are fruit of human failure in some level :)

Even if power plants are very safe the consequences of a accident are very high... Brazil has only 2 nuclear plants (Luckly close to each other and far away from me :) ) but if one of then had a meltdown it would affect a large area of the country. And there is also nuclear waste, off course it is rid off safetly but still human stupdiness could make a piece "stray off" and end up where it shouldnt...

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 22:18
by Comp1337
Peet wrote:And the accident at chernobyl was not the product of normal operation, it was the result of an unauthorized and irresponsible experiment iirc.
Yeah, I didnt count chernobyl because of the circumstances

Edit: Also mano, you probably wouldnt notice a meltdown except for the power loss iiuc

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 01:37
by manored
Comp1337 wrote:
Peet wrote:And the accident at chernobyl was not the product of normal operation, it was the result of an unauthorized and irresponsible experiment iirc.
Yeah, I didnt count chernobyl because of the circumstances

Edit: Also mano, you probably wouldnt notice a meltdown except for the power loss iiuc
Well just because I dont know im being bombarded by radiation doesnt means I woudlnt be anyoned if I later discoverd I was :)

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 20:15
by rattle
You were bombarded with retardiation tbh.

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 00:18
by manored
Lol

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 00:27
by Ixoran
Teutooni wrote:Lately, I've read some intresting articles on cybernetic implants and brain-computer interfaces. This is no science fiction, brain implants have been succesfully tested on animals and crippled.

A guy who was completely paralyzed below the neck, got at least some independence back, as he could adjust his bed, the lights of the room and TV via an implant inserted into his brain. How would you like a remote controlled rat? I saw a TV documentary a couple of weeks ago, where a rat was remotely given instructions directly into its brain, and made to go into places it wouldn't normally go, and to find its way out of a maze.

New, better electronic arms and legs could replace organic ones. Imagine being able to run 100 miles an hour with your ENERGY LEGS, like in the 6 million dollar guy series? Eye implants would be relatively easy too. One day, we could percieve the entire electromagnetic spectrum - an X-ray vision for all!! \o/

There has been research on directly enhacning cognitive abilities with implants. Imagine plugging in a memory module, and suddenly you would have infallible memory.

But where will this all end? Will we eventually replace all inferior organic parts with computers and electric motors, and "transfer our conciousness into durable machines", or will there be an ethical movement refusing the patterning?

My thought behind this was always....
" Well hot damn all that's cool, but... I dunno If I wanna have sex with a cyborg."

External changes were always unappealing to me. I'd much rather have high-tech glasses than robotic eyes...
Though a cybertronic brain could be so awesome...

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 00:31
by manored
But sex will become obsolete! :) You will just build your kids instead, what eliminates any need of being attractive :)

Tough at that point we will probally all be a hive mind anyway...

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 00:34
by smoth
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D O M I N A T O R S!

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 00:40
by manored
I prefer to be something more flexible :)

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 01:03
by Ixoran
manored wrote:But sex will become obsolete!
I don't want to live in that world. Heh.

Besides, Then I'd have to bicker about what features we wanted to put into the kid and blah blah...

can you Imagine: "I want to run windows on our kid...."

"Windows, Um, Linux is more stable he won't have to sleep as much"

"Well, Maybe He'll like sleep?"

I think there's a reason we can't make our kids... I really don't want to make decisions on the like 20,00 factors that make up a human.

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 01:11
by manored
Well, you could just remove your desire to make sex, then you would see no reason to not live in that world :)

And with a computer brain it wouldnt be that hard to plan up a kid, and if we were made of nanorobots with a hive mind we could just split parts of us and let then develop a new conscience... :)

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 01:22
by Ixoran
manored wrote:Well, you could just remove your desire to make sex, then you would see no reason to not live in that world :)

And with a computer brain it wouldnt be that hard to plan up a kid, and if we were made of nanorobots with a hive mind we could just split parts of us and let then develop a new conscience... :)
You mean you want to be part of a true hivemind?
I mean, I personally like creativity. we would never have another Albert Einstein, Martin Luther, etc.

though conversely I suppose we would never have another Hilter, Stalin, Malcom X, etc

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 02:04
by manored
Well I suppose a hyper intelligent computer would be smart enough to know that a single control core would make it vulnerable and generate diferent computers from itself...

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 02:07
by Ixoran
manored wrote:Well I suppose a hyper intelligent computer would be smart enough to know that a single control core would make it vulnerable and generate diferent computers from itself...
I doubt that.
Besides it would be better if the computer focused on one single perfect entity creation method.

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 14:14
by PicassoCT
First Thought of a Hivemind: Were are all the others? How boring - and i here voices, telling me that hearing voices when you are just on your own is a bad thing...

Is a Personalitysplit possible once you are a Hivemind? I am Queen of Borg, we know a help for Shizos!/Don´t believe her, she lies like Ripley in Alien 5!

Or would a Hivemind split of Chars to solve Problems? So now we have assimilated the whole Voyager - lets reawake the Indivduals and let them continue there travell as Borg in Disguise... that way you could rip of the Innovation of the Indivdual and still be the ConstantMindGroupsex-Entity you became thousand years ago, when some People wouldn´t join up, until there beloved Pets would be coassimilated! ;)

We humans are famous for doing things with great innovations for which they never were thought. So - could i clone a Body, upload my Windows to it - and beat that Bullshit of a Programm up ? ;)

Re: ARM or CORE?

Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 18:55
by manored
My interpretation of hive mind is not of a lot of individual minds connected and exchanging toughs, but of a single mind habiting several corpses... like in TA. All units are controlled by a single mind, that is, us plus the automatic game commands they respond to...