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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 23:39
by SwiftSpear
Ammrikins didn't expect to have to tolerate brown people when they made their founding doctorans lulz!

I certainly agree there are many problems to the current immigration situation involving the Mexican boarder, but simply put... I don't think a big wall and shooting people is a total solution, to say the least.

I minefield would do nothing except result in exploded Mexicans. They wouldn't shy away from a minefield, most of them are quite willing to risk their lifes to boarder hop.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 23:46
by Forboding Angel
SwiftSpear wrote:Ammrikins didn't expect to have to tolerate brown people when they made their founding doctorans lulz!

I certainly agree there are many problems to the current immigration situation involving the Mexican boarder, but simply put... I don't think a big wall and shooting people is a total solution, to say the least.

I minefield would do nothing except result in exploded Mexicans. They wouldn't shy away from a minefield, most of them are quite willing to risk their lifes to boarder hop.
No a big wall and shooting people. Just a big wall capable of monitoring.

The minefield was not actually serious, even tho appearently I failed at belaying sarcasm.

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 02:46
by Lindir The Green
Those signs are funny like Mallard Fillmore is funny.

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 02:49
by smoth
Fanger wrote:Forb.. WTF are you on about...

Those signs are all full of shit and stupid.. and smoth is right.. we should focus on the real issues.. like 4chan being down..

THIS IS NOT GOOD PEOPLE!!

think of all the /b/tards wandering the internets.. think of the havoc, the innocent kittens.. save 4chan..
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hey guys, 4chon is being ddosed!

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 07:51
by LOrDo
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Do some of you actually think THIS is being serious?...

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 11:12
by Felix the Cat
Those signs are serious. I can attest to that. I've seen some of them (the war one, others) at uber-Christian-conservative protests in DC. My high school US History teach had several of those, and he was an absolute conservative wingnut.

(Srsly, my high school US History teacher was an absolute psycho. I learned many valuable lessons from him about history. One of those lessons was that the Germans ate babies during World War 1. He seriously said that, and he wasn't joking. He also said that all illegitimate children should be put in jail, if not put to death. He wasn't joking there either.)

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 16:28
by Quanto042
Felix the Cat wrote:Those signs are serious. I can attest to that. I've seen some of them (the war one, others) at uber-Christian-conservative protests in DC. My high school US History teach had several of those, and he was an absolute conservative wingnut.

(Srsly, my high school US History teacher was an absolute psycho. I learned many valuable lessons from him about history. One of those lessons was that the Germans ate babies during World War 1. He seriously said that, and he wasn't joking. He also said that all illegitimate children should be put in jail, if not put to death. He wasn't joking there either.)
Right-wing nut-jobs make me laugh.

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 16:36
by smoth
4chan is back up again.

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The soup was delicious!

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 17:12
by Mr.Frumious
Forboding Angel wrote:Has anyone forgotten the protests here in the US of Illegal Mexican Immigrants?

Explain to me why someone who jumps the line and commits A FELONY by coming into the country illegally should be given our bill of rights ( http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/fac ... illeng.htm )?

Legal immigrants are good. We like legal. Illegal imigrants just piss everyone except the socialists off. The socialists love to get more "Victims" to depend on them and use as an excuse to make government MOAR BIGGAR!.

Meh, anyway.
I'm not going to argue the morality of illegal immigration, however using legality to argue morality is silly. The whole point of the pro-illegal groups is that the anti-immigration laws are immoral. There was a time when slavery was legal. Would you have argued that protesting slaves were immoral?

Of course not - since the slavery laws were racist, immoral constructs of a hateful system. Which is exactly what your adversaries say about immigration laws.

I don't agree with them, but it's important to understand their point of view.

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 18:23
by Forboding Angel
Immoral:
deliberately violating accepted principles of right and wrong
# base: not adhering to ethical or moral principles; "base and unpatriotic motives"; "a base, degrading way of life"; "cheating is dishonorable"; "they considered colonialism immoral"; "unethical practices in handling public funds"
# morally unprincipled; "immoral behavior"
# bad: characterized by wickedness or immorality; "led a very bad life"
# depraved: marked by immorality; deviating from what is considered right or proper or good; "depraved criminals"; "a perverted sense of loyalty"; "the reprobate conduct of a gambling aristocrat"
In that case I fail to see how they have any valid case at all.[/quote]

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 19:36
by manored
Fanger wrote:Manored... Have your heard of militaries.. they are all the rage for a country wishing to enforce its claim on ground, resources, or other such things.. Force of Arms is what gives a nation the right to claim a piece of land..
Problem is that claiming/keeping land through strengh causes war, and people dont like war... altough war would reduce the population and solve the problem :)

What makes me think in another worring issue: If population growth keeps like this, soon there will be too many people in the world for it to stand, what will mean either war or kids being throw at the sea... and I think it will be war...

Posted: 23 Oct 2007, 19:38
by KDR_11k
Felix the Cat wrote:Those signs are serious. I can attest to that. I've seen some of them (the war one, others) at uber-Christian-conservative protests in DC. My high school US History teach had several of those, and he was an absolute conservative wingnut.

(Srsly, my high school US History teacher was an absolute psycho. I learned many valuable lessons from him about history. One of those lessons was that the Germans ate babies during World War 1. He seriously said that, and he wasn't joking. He also said that all illegitimate children should be put in jail, if not put to death. He wasn't joking there either.)
Oh, we had a history teacher who used to be an officer in an artillery company and kept talking about the greatness of the Axis in WW2.

Posted: 24 Oct 2007, 00:16
by BrainDamage
KDR_11k wrote: Oh, we had a history teacher who used to be an officer in an artillery company and kept talking about the greatness of the Axis in WW2.
was he questioned with the obvious question "if the axis was so great, then why did it lose?", if yes, what explanation did he give?

Posted: 24 Oct 2007, 04:02
by Muzic
Gnome wrote:
KDR_11k wrote:I love that "Hey France, we saved you from the Nazis so you are forever indebted to us" mentality of some US Americans. Why shouldn't France go "Hey, USA, we saved your ass from the Brits so do what we tell you to!"?
We did that, and ended up getting our sailors stolen and our shit burned down!
Thats not the frenches fault.

Sailors we're stolen during the American revolution, which the french were helping the americans in, france didn't have that powerful a navy enough to really stop the British.

Getting your white house burned down was becuase america tried to invade Canada, which british people occupied. France had nothing to do with this one, as they only helped in the american revolution, not the war of 1812.