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Re: Random WIP

Posted: 15 Nov 2008, 11:22
by MergeNine
I've heard the 2nd texture can be used for something other than glow and reflection, what else can it do?

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 15 Nov 2008, 21:40
by AF
Gunship? I think not! Spaceship? More than likely

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 15 Nov 2008, 22:23
by Hoi
I think it can use alpha (not sure)

Also, did you switch texture 1 and 2? looks like it in the zip file.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 15 Nov 2008, 23:48
by MergeNine
No those are the correct textures, texture 2 I tried giving as little green as possible to reduce the reflection -which is why it looks like what texture 1 would if It wasn't set to nearly transparent. It may just be that Upspring exaggerates it a little bit? I don't know as this is the first proper model I've done using it.

Also, what is it you use to convert the textures to dds? Are there any advantages to doing this other than that you don't have to set the texture1 to near transparent for non team colour areas?

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 01:09
by hamsate
I was bored and browsing the web.. and saw this:
http://fc73.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/ ... iggs69.jpg

Then I made this:
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm42 ... figbot.jpg
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm42 ... figtop.jpg

What do you guys think? I know the wings look a bit funny.. and small.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 05:32
by Cremuss
well, you didn't choosed the easiest shape :-)

It needs something more "aerodynamic". I'll tweak the cokpit and the wings first to get something looking nicer, then I'll add little details.
anywat that's a start :-)

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 06:42
by KingRaptor
I find that Upspring really exaggerates the reflectivity, it's rather more toned down ingame.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 06:52
by Warlord Zsinj
It does, but nonetheless it's still not looking right in your shot.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 08:22
by Hoi
hamsate wrote:I was bored and browsing the web.. and saw this:
http://fc73.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/ ... iggs69.jpg

Then I made this:
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm42 ... figbot.jpg
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm42 ... figtop.jpg

What do you guys think? I know the wings look a bit funny.. and small.
Looks nice:)

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 13:28
by MR.D
Reminds me of the "Descent" gunship.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 21:13
by Soul1337
One of mine better models. Tank just like phalanx

Image

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 22:01
by Hoi
Not bad:)

Only thing for now is that if it's for an rts, the barrels really have too much poly's, a number like 8-12 (with this I mean the cylinders should have about 8-12 faces excluding the top and bottom face) would be much better, and also, you shouldn't model the inside of the barrels, not needed and takes alot of poly's.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 22:43
by Cremuss
Yeah, cool.
Some waste of tris on the turret and the barrels as Hoi noticed.
Hoi wrote:also, you shouldn't model the inside of the barrels, not needed and takes alot of poly's.
I like to model them. It can be faked with a texture but you can model them when the barrel is enough big. Also it doesn't take that much polys if the barrel is 6 or 8 sided, just make sure to merge all the vertice inside the barrel.

The difference of a 6 sided cylinder with and without the barrel modeled is 14 tris and about 20 for a 8 sided so I guess it's ok :-) :wink:

edit : I've a lot of pictures to show but I can't connect on AF's ftp :shock: :|

edit 2 : 'Hosted on my own one until it's fixed.

7 units I've made this week ( first boats model ever )
Check the links under the pictures, I've made some others renders/screenshots but I don't want to flood the thread. (even if I do :mrgreen: )

Thanatos : Gatling tank
Image
http://cremuss.free.fr/fodb/files/newmodels/tank_1/

Hemera : Laser tank
Image
http://cremuss.free.fr/fodb/files/newmodels/tank_2/

Scorpion : flamethrower tank
Image
http://cremuss.free.fr/fodb/files/newmodels/tank_3/

Sphinx : Laser boat.
Image
http://cremuss.free.fr/fodb/files/newmodels/naval_3/

Cronos : flak/deployable missile launcher/plasma canon
Image
http://cremuss.free.fr/fodb/files/newmodels/naval_2/

Cobra: Flak boat.
Image
http://cremuss.free.fr/fodb/files/newmodels/naval_4/

Nyx : Heavy ship.
Image
http://cremuss.free.fr/fodb/files/newmodels/naval_1/

(:

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 01:31
by Acidd_UK
Wow, those look fantastic :)

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 03:09
by SinbadEV
Yipes... did you contract smoth's disease?

(Also, those are awesome models)

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 03:13
by Tribulexrenamed
Holy shit cremus.

/me gives cremuss 10000 cookies

You are doing AWESOME

MAKE A MOD PLEASE IT WILL BE SO FABULOUS.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 03:13
by Cremuss
thx :D
SinbadEV wrote:Yipes... did you contract smoth's disease?
Don't know, what's that ? :mrgreen:

edit : @ Tribulex : thx for cookies :mrgreen:
I'm too noob to make a mod. I don't have any knowledges about scriptings or LUA etc ^^
I prefer improving my skill in modeling and texturing, so I can provide pro looking models to spring community in some months :mrgreen:

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 03:49
by Decimator
I like all of those except the gatling tank. That giant flat area on its sides is just begging for a high-velocity round.

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 04:16
by HeavyLancer
The towers on those ships look a little too tall for a hull of that width, so you may want to shorten them. Otherwise, nice job :P

Re: Random WIP

Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 04:49
by Cremuss
thx :)

@ HeavyLancer : Maybe :wink:
I wanted to stay on the "TA" feel, with disproportionned guns.

@ Decimator : Hehe, the shape is mainly taked from the penetrator ^^

Also I toyed with the idea of making a kind of trailer for spring. Something with 3D cinematics (like old TA intro) and ingame video.

Image
(but with textures ofc :mrgreen: )