Spring RTS Engine

smoth wrote:

muckl wrote:" this topic cause its just another shit for lonely fat homeboys with no girlfriends playing spring and have to much time to hang out in forums and troll and discuss around over things they cant get and change."

muckl wrote:so its condescendingness when i contribute? LOL
im getting mad now..

Let me highlight this for you.

so the ppls out of this thread are the community?
LOL then im really out! SHIT COMMUNITY *caps off*

smoth wrote:

muckl wrote:" this topic cause its just another shit for lonely fat homeboys with no girlfriends playing spring and have to much time to hang out in forums and troll and discuss around over things they cant get and change."

muckl wrote:so its condescendingness when i contribute? LOL
im getting mad now..

Let me highlight this for you.

In the name of all that trolly, i protest good Sir! Im out there ruining everyones real life too. Such post lead to the wrong assumption that there is safety away from the screen.

*sigh*
This is why we can't have nice things.

smoth wrote:Let me highlight this for you.

Keep up the good work!

The forum is a part of the community. Yes.

The entire thread isn't about you, I know you want it to be.. but many of the posts have nothing to do with you. marciolino contacted you out of half hearted good will and I can understand your frustration. however, just because you didn't like his post doesn't mean you should come in and act like a jerk to the rest of us.

I don't know you, I am not going to make any sort of assumptions about your needs or wants. I just ask you to be a bit nicer, your behavior right now is why carpenter is ripping you a new one. Not your server.

[LOeT]Zinn wrote:

smoth wrote:Let me highlight this for you.

Keep up the good work!

Not making fun, english isn't his first language, maybe he got mixed up in the shuffle when he was trying to understand all the posts.

smoth wrote: act like a jerk to the rest of us.

smoth wrote: I know you want it to be

smoth wrote: nicer

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smoth bias qoute wrote:so its condescendingness when i contribute? LOL
im getting mad now..

Misqouting someone wont help the community and people wonders why Spring is dieng.
You'self moaning about Derailling your own threat but Deraill other threads. Great job Smoth .

Not my fault if you can't afford a Great Autohost.

Sooo, in an attempt to stear the conversation in a more productive direction -

Licho wrote:http://code.google.com/p/zero-k/wiki/MatchMaking

Licho, is there anything a (practically) non coder who hasn't got a massive amount of time on his hands can help with?

se5a wrote:Licho, is there anything a (practically) non coder who hasn't got a massive amount of time on his hands can help with?

Not yet, there will be in future - tagging maps .. setting which are good for which mode and boxes for various modes.

Atm probably no.

Well i think people is taking a wrong direction about why spring have less players.
1. Autohosts cost conexion, conexion cost money and where the money came from?, from Owners
2. Hey yeah theres a 24 26 28 30 32 players autohost, and?,
if people want join the autohost and make it more players its because they want. Nobody is bound to join an autohost with +20 players
3. First of all we must say thanks to Paste,Fabrice,Newmind,bibim,Nixtux and all autohost owner to make that posible, otherwise we couldnt play with more than 10 players by home conexion
4. Im with Niobum comment, if BA allows +20 players its because the mod itself support more than 20 players even 30, and the playerbase with ecospam isnt that hard

After all the comments im just with 1 thing, Autohost have a rank detection wich makes u spec if u dont have that rank.
That rank limitation prevents smurfs otherwise it will be very easy smurf join and disbalance the game wich is not good.
I suggest if bibim can change that when a player smurfs gets autorank 7, so no more problems with smurf and autohosts can disable the rank limit.

Ive see the rank limit makes less noobs caring to play the game and leave, but also if they gonna play they will get kicked, kickbanned or even worse banned because he gets mad and kill a teammate.

hmmm this whole direction si wrong, as I said no point focusing on the TERA host because there are valid reasons for keeping it that way. Don't put effort into changing this until those reasons no longer apply or your just generating bad will.

Because you all pushed anyway, you've shot yourselves in the foot, and any autohost owner can now refer to this thread an an ecuse not to do anything. This is what this has devolved into:



=/

http://www.shortlist.com/resource/binar ... htless.mp3
and chill.

Sorry all, I trolled muckl too hard in lobby and he got into this mad rage and came here to crap around, but still he is 100% right. This is definetly quite an inbred community with bad cooperation to get actual things done or even analyze what is the problem.

se5a wrote: Licho, is there anything a (practically) non coder who hasn't got a massive amount of time on his hands can help with?

Of course there is. Someone needs to find what players/people really want or enjoy playing. That is usually quite far from what they think they want.

When a player opens the game there needs to be a limited set of options and
all of those options should produce different playing experience for different kind of players. Then after the player learns what she likes and which suits his current mood she can start customizing the options.

Play now button is too stupid and just hosts sorted by player count apparently is too complex for most of people cause they only can join the top one.

Pako you need to go and read Licho's project in full
he's already covered that.

Yeah, its not just another "play now" button. Seems very well thought out.

muckl wrote:come back if u got an new rule for autohost WRITTEN BY LICHO and POSTED ON SPRING MAINSITE

then when all autohosts need a 16pl limit then i follow this

Hey, licho, you're the dictator.

Just so you know.

PS: So what if you don't want to be? Thats just the way it is!

momfreeek wrote:Yeah, its not just another "play now" button. Seems very well thought out.

muckl wrote:come back if u got an new rule for autohost WRITTEN BY LICHO and POSTED ON SPRING MAINSITE

then when all autohosts need a 16pl limit then i follow this

Hey, licho, you're the dictator.

Just so you know.

PS: So what if you don't want to be? Thats just the way it is!

Pls stop rage against people, we talk about why we have less players, raging is not solution, and its not muckl faults also, and hes right if he removes his autohost people will move to the next 20 24 playerbase autohost and we end the same, so we will need disable whole autohost.
Why not disable whole spring and no more spring then? if u find raging is a good solution lol....

Dunno why moderators let people rage against other around the spring constructive "rage is destructive" forums

sorry, a misunderstanding. No rage or ill will meant.

I was being serious: the one person that has the authority to make rules that will be most respected is licho (as quote states).

well sorry if ive ofended u momfreek wasnt my idea but ive seen many people raged against muckl, is not nice, he wants to play thats all

not offended, just clearing up the misunderstanding :) (easily misunderstood amongst all the rage, yes)

Senna wrote:well sorry if ive ofended u momfreek wasnt my idea but ive seen many people raged against muckl, is not nice, he wants to play thats all

Oh come on, do a simple insult to wordcount comparison in this thread.
some have been quite... adolecent in thier arguments.