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Conships make fine naval nanotowers.

Also engineers.

you could allow nanotowers to be built underwater, solves the water nano requests with minimal fuss

you could allow nanotowers to be built underwater, solves the water nano requests with minimal fuss

Pxtl wrote:Conships make fine naval nanotowers.

Conships, engineers and consubs all start screwing each others pathing up if you have a lot of them on one factory.

Also, the open/close time sux. While conships/sub/engis are adequate, you could use the same argument for getting rid of nano towers on land. The fact is, they are more computationally efficient than con units and can't wander off to the other side of the map to reclaim a jeffy/searcher wreck.

Just pull my floating Naval nano tower models out of CA, or SA.

They're already setup, working, and would be an easy and helpful addition.

Submerged nano's would be a serious pain in the ass to kill btw, surface ones are the better choice at least for balance.

take out the annoying "blurrrr" noise when units cant move

i can never figure out which unit it is and then I have to turn the sound off. when that happens i dont know when my commander is being hit


or can someone tell me where the sound file is so i can delete it

REVENGE wrote:Don't forget, they can even be combat airdropped into the water!

Seriously gtfo, who needs OP units fixed anyways?

omg you were not being sarcastic, they can indeed be airdropped in water!

And they can dodge all torpedoes and kill pretty much all sea without ever getting hit. Unlike dodging rocko rockets, with gimps, moving in the direction of the enemy works because the torpedoes must do vertical aiming too. The torpedoes just pass above the gimp and don't hit.

underjeep wrote:take out the annoying "blurrrr" noise when units cant move

This has already been done in the next version of BA.

Pxtl wrote:Conships make fine naval nanotowers.

Conships (both t1, t2 and engineers) arent even close to nanotowers due to those open/cose time waste.

Also to build nanotower you dont need to use factory - thats very important.

Yeah, that sound when units get stuck is extremely annoying.

Though shell not add to ba.
Though shell not change ba.
Though shell not say ba is bad.
And the lord liketh.

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'Thou shalt'.

I think it's funny that people use nanotowers because of their lack of open-close time. I doubt that was a designed-in feature, but simply a lazy unit-maker who didn't want to bother with that crap.

Either way, complaining about the need for a factory to get conships is kinda silly, since L1 factories are dirt cheap, and if you're fighting a naval game you're probably going to be getting an L1 shipyard pretty damned soon.

Besides, what are you building that you need assistance for? Usually I find nanotowers are being built to support a factory (like a shipyard) or to support a guardian+jammer+defenses cluster. The former means you've already got a shipyard, and the latter doesn't exist on the water.

I suppose they'd be handy if you like building floating walls, or hovers.

Pxtl wrote:I think it's funny that people use nanotowers because of their lack of open-close time. I doubt that was a designed-in feature, but simply a lazy unit-maker who didn't want to bother with that crap.

They are ingame anyway. And working without delays.

Pxtl wrote:Either way, complaining about the need for a factory to get conships is kinda silly, since L1 factories are dirt cheap, and if you're fighting a naval game you're probably going to be getting an L1 shipyard pretty damned soon.

You should play BA a bit more before posting ur thoughts on forums.
If you did you d know that on sea ure not building only ships. There are 3 other factories except shipyards. And all of those 3 require nano towers much more than shipyards.

Pxtl wrote:Besides, what are you building that you need assistance for? Usually I find nanotowers are being built to support a factory (like a shipyard) or to support a guardian+jammer+defenses cluster. The former means you've already got a shipyard, and the latter doesn't exist on the water.

Repair is the next thing they might be required for except assisting factories.

Pxtl wrote:I suppose they'd be handy if you like building floating walls, or hovers.

Thats right. And any non-noob game is WITH floating hover factory or atleast *SPOILER* with amphi complex or even with sea planes.

Also it would be handy for engineers that are building tritons or alike.
Not that many use that feature (building units with engineers), but im using.

You should play BA a bit more before posting ur thoughts on forums.

Yes . Yes you should

Curious: why build the floating hover fac? It's harder to defend, and harder to support. Every game of Small Supreme I play, the hover plant is built on land - it's more secure there.

And I've never seen anyone, hardcore or not, build floating DTs.

My point is that in every naval game, the first naval fac is either a hover plant (usually built on land) or a shipyard, which gets you conships, which have a hella-beefy nanolathe even if they don't have instant-on.

I mean, are there a handful of cases where you might need a naval tower? Yeah. But in 90% of cases the conship does a fine job and is available.

@Sleksa - I play a lot of BA (mostly because it's the only damned game ever open in the lobby). I still suck at it, I know. But STFU about me not being allowed to have an opinion on it.

I make the floating hover factory frequently if most of my buildpower is in the sea. Then guard it with 3-4 conships and spam hover tanks.

If you suck, you can have an opinion, just don't expect good players to agree with you (and if you persist in having opinions, you may get laughed at).

Pxtl wrote: @Sleksa - I play a lot of BA (mostly because it's the only damned game ever open in the lobby). I still suck at it, I know. But STFU about me not being allowed to have an opinion on it.

was directed at dzzirrus