Spring RTS Engine

drolito wrote: I think if you are with a friend ... 2 noobs come ... you have to play each one with a noob and help them to play in game (if u have time) ... not to stay ally with your friend and make a noob-rush-carnage ^^

Um no, I kick the nubs (or spect them) and wait for good ppls to show up.

Ishach wrote:when you are good, playing to win IS playing for fun

+1

QUIT WHINNING

Com bombing will always exist as long as it be worth doing... Im sorry. I dont like it too but I fear modifications in the mod are the only solution.

Drolito, when you understand the concepts and ideas of this game, you might be good. Until then, can you please quietly remove yourself from this community so we don't have to listen to your whinning.

(PS: The rules of BA don't say you have to build a mex and energy then a lab... then another mex then energy, because wait: THERE ARE NO RULES)

why do so many discussion end up in personal attacks?

becuase the guy who started this thread is retarded.


seriously, if anyone wants to get better, just talk to someone in a good clan (meaning SmuG, XHC, PRO - not WarC though ) and be like "yoz, help me out homiez" or something to that effect a few times, and you might get some help and - GASP - actually improve!

Im not saying you have to "train" or anything crazy, but learning the basics from more experienced players cant hurt.

To that end, watch some f*ing replays...

Yeah clan guys are always willing to help "noobs"

steven is, i'm just mean.

LordMatt wrote:Um no, I kick the nubs (or spect them) and wait for good ppls to show up.

How do you spot nubs, when they say "I can't play well" or just by their rank? Rank doesn't say which mod or possibly map they played, as someone who plays "alternative" mods I often encounter star rank people who never played that mod before so the rank doesn't necessarily identify a non-nub.

Nixa wrote:Drolito, when you understand the concepts and ideas of this game, you might be good. Until then, can you please quietly remove yourself from this community so we don't have to listen to your whinning.

(PS: The rules of BA don't say you have to build a mex and energy then a lab... then another mex then energy, because wait: THERE ARE NO RULES)

mmmmh ... u want ? u know the word "Democracy" ? Try to be less violent against me !!!

With this topic i only want players to understand that even if there are no rules ... they have to think about others players ...

It's like courtesy : no rules but we all know what to do ... and i think waste 30 mn at 9 players because u had wanted to make a fun thing for u (like combomb, comnapbomb, comintrusion ...) its very bad ...

And i think 5% of all the players make these bad thing which rot the community !!!

PS : LOL jackalope your Avatar is so fun :p ... i think you have understand what is a "joke" ... ^^ ... i put the same team for me ... Suck team !!!

drolito wrote:
mmmmh ... u want ? u know the word "Democracy" ? Try to be less violent against me !!!

With this topic i only want players to understand that even if there are no rules ... they have to think about others players ...

It's like courtesy : no rules but we all know what to do ... and i think waste 30 mn at 9 players because u had wanted to make a fun thing for u (like combomb, comnapbomb, comintrusion ...) its very bad ...

And i think 5% of all the players make these bad thing which rot the community !!!

PS : LOL jackalope your Avatar is so fun :p ... i think you have understand what is a "joke" ... ^^ ... i put the same team for me ... Suck team !!!

Internet does not compute this democracy thing you speak of.

The internets is a land of savage wild beasts, no rules are available and if they ARE available SOMEHOW they will be BENT and BROKEN!

Internets does not compute unwritten rules either!

And In my opinion?

Comnapping / Combombing an incredibly tasty target = Hilariousofeista.

How to ruin the comnapper's/combomber's day :

CNer :
1. Select commander.
2. Move commander.

ComBomber :

1. 2x fighter / 2x defender next to tasty spot.

Huzzah!

drolito wrote:I'm made of lol ... that's sure ... but im not a XTA player so im not made of defense ^^
i think i had to put in the title : FOR BA PLAYERS !!!

because thats not the same for the poor XTA players who doesn't know what a com can make ^^ ...

its sure that's not the same in XTA : u can destroy a com with little units (5 samson can easily do that very quickly) ... even at the beginning ... in BA ... a com which make an intrusion can easily destroy 1/2 of the opponents base before being destroyed ...

for starters com has more hp in xta, and his dgun actually fires when you click it, not 0.5 seconds later.
It also SOP for "good" players to push the line with missile/rocket units being micro'd in front of a commander who is repairing/providing radar and los.

In my experience it is much more common to see an xta com at the front than a ba com, as the sea of flash/gater can end it so quickly. That said llt creep seems pretty popular with some players.

I'm not sure why im bothering to respond to this with a vague semblance of rationality tbh.

Complain you dont like the pace or economy of XTA, fair enough, but calling it porcy and the players nubs is stupid and reeks of having not learned to play the mod. Pick a map, watch a ba 1v1 and an xta 1v1, and count the llts.

wtf?
kill this guy. IRL that is.
*i came all the way into the forums just to say that*

Yeah, it ussually isn't how many defence structures that make a mod porcy but the structures indivdual strength in relation the the mod's units.

or aguably the % investment the average (capable) player makes, of both time and conventional resources, into armed static units, as opposed to mobile ones.

So much hostility in these forums

I don't mean to appear hostile.. :) i just find unfounded criticism of mods pretty annoying (people who don't play xta saying things that arent true about it in order to explain why they play ba).

I appreciate that the mod is an acquired taste, and that the hlt in XTA is a lot more powerful than in BA, and that this throws some people.

Seriously no offence/hostility intended at all. With specific regards to my post directed at drolito, i was attacking ideas, not the author.

pff, this forum is a paradise compared to others..

well the reason I play BA is pretty much because in XTA the units are too big and can't be properly microed.

Foxomaniac wrote:CNer :
1. Select commander.
2. Move commander.

ComBomber :

1. 2x fighter / 2x defender next to tasty spot.

do u think we have to say that to all the players at all the beginning of a game ?
and do u know what 10 scout with an atlas do against 2 fighters or 2 tasty spot ? only 5 scout destroyed ... and an atlas whioch can unload the com ^^

pintle wrote:Seriously no offence/hostility intended at all. With specific regards to my post directed at drolito, i was attacking ideas, not the author.

lol ... all posters don't think the same ... but they are only stupid posters i think ^^

what do u think about those who always post on the channel these sort of thing :

"speed metal is a bad map", don't play the poor xta mod", "green fields suck" ... let players do what they want if that makes them happy please !!!

drolito wrote:... let players do what they want if that makes them happy please !!!

You just contradicted yourself, since you ask for players to be able to do anything they want but dont wanna see em combombing/napping...

In any online game, obeying courtsy rules is one option. I think that not combombing is already a courtsy rule since most people who combomb are kicked and find it difficult to play once they are know, (see flopflop's example, who haves a lot of false names to be able to play) but you cannot just force em to not combomb.

Comnapping is not really a bad thing since its easy to prevent and if you fail with a comnaping you will be on a bad situation since you started air...