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tombom wrote:

Relative wrote:I still don't get why you are importing from the Americas

Because he is currently in Canada.

BigSteve wrote: (Im buying in North America btw)

Oh......

Well then the only thing you have to worry about when returning to the UK is pretending you had that PC all along at customs (say you were at some lan party, it will be too nerdy for them ), and get a UK power cable and change the power setting to 220-240v on the power supply.

What are newegg prices like? Do they have a canada operation or ship to canada?

Steve: you could buy a barebones might might save some hassle - its a mobo mounted in a case already - I've started to use them at work as they cut down the building time

I'm sure if you posted what you were about to buy here us lot could 'vet' it for ya and keep problems to a minuim.

Or buy a Dell.

richw wrote: Or buy a Dell.

Right, and get a bunch of bloatware on the harddrive, plus a huge price markup...

Cmon people, try reading.
Steve, Newegg may be great, but they wont even ship or accept billing from Canada, so your kinda out of luck. TigerDirects actually a pretty good choice, they have great stock and great base prices, my main complaint is that their tax and shipping charges are pretty high, that and UPS hates me.
Ive ordered things from VibeComputers, the have pretty good prices, sometimes better then TD, but their stocks a tad small for major computer buying, parcel post is an option though, so cheap shipping.
NCIX is also an option for Canadians, I havent bought anything from them, but they seem pretty good.
There are few good options for buying computer parts in canada, as Ive found out. Buying local parts is usually the best thing to do. But for entire computer set of parts... I think you made a good decision with TD.

I've heard some very bad things about TD's service. Look em up on the BBB site.

Relative wrote:

REVENGE wrote:Those parts are pretty good, though I would go for a more robust power supply.

Actually, I wouldn't use less than 650 W and would use 750 W if you think you might ever upgrade to SLI.

Lolz. 650 W I might understand if you are a little paranoid, but 750 W is just overkill

Lolz. When one video card could consume over 200W-300W? I'm sorry, but I would like to keep my components stable.

P3374H wrote:I've heard some very bad things about TD's service. Look em up on the BBB site.

Yes...very...bad...things...yes...

Kenahdeuns - http://www.ncix.com

Asumming you can do some poking around and basic research/question-asking, purchase the parts yourself, screw the darn thing together and save yourself money. Almost always, you can build a PC for cheaper than a company, with the exception of dells cheapo PCs. I spent $740.00 on my computer and about $700.00 on the speakers for it.

DIY speakers... DIY comp... Either way you look at it, your taking one thing out of the cost, and that is labor. And, FFS, buy/build a decent router if you already havent.

AF wrote:60% of a PCs cost is a company ripping you off. The best PCs money can buy are made from parts as it is, and motherboard jumpers are the most complicated part (usually they dont need changing at all and have 2-3 pages of a manual with pictures to help). Its simply a plug in and screw affair.

My PC was £800, the equivilant PC prebuilt by a company is several thousand more, preloaded with allsorts of rubbish sftware, has 10-20GB of hardrive space locked in a hidden partition, doesnt come with a bootable windows CD, and usually has an uncertain mix of hardware.

QFT.. Hmm, suprisingly I agree with everthing AF has stated.

Relative wrote:Lolz. When one video card could consume over 200W-300W? I'm sorry, but I would like to keep my components stable.

Lets not also forget things such as multiple hard drives in RAID in addition to the high-output waffle iron video card.

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

Off a 530W I run a C2D E6400 @ 3.2Ghz, 2GB RAM, 2 x HDD, 1 x DVD writer, SB aug card + X1950XT without any problems.

IF you going to go SLI/cross fire with the 8800 series or the yet to be relased ATI card, then yes you need 750+ (consdering the cards will take 200-300 watts).

Hard drives dont take that much (about 15watts according to that calculator).

Man, i feel dirty using a 550watt supply.

Man next thing you know, ppl will be liek. OMG WE MUST GETS DEH 1KILOWATT SUPPLY FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!!


And all the electric bills that go with it. And, yes, i know that computers don't actually use all of the power produced by the supply. BUT I would imaging that any computer using a 1kilowatt supply would indeed be using more power than a 550watt supply.

I would personally forgo some power for a kickass dual-screen setup and good speaker system. Few people really fully utilize $3000 worth of horsepower, so to speak.

I hear so many bad things about TD's service, Ive never experienced anything close to that though. Its just UPS screwing things up for me.

PS: Thanks for the PSU calculater link, I really needed one of those.
Heh... power for my setup is definatly not a issue for me.

Then what keeps turning off my computer at random?

The definite resource to buying b0xen: http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer.ars