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Posted: 17 Mar 2006, 12:11
by Masse
BLAME CANADA !
Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 03:21
by diggz2k
We are more important than animals. That's it I'm done. Not checking this topic again.
Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 22:10
by Andreask
Animals are commodties.
Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 22:46
by Michilus_nimbus
Maelstrom wrote:And why is a human worth more than an animal in the first place? What gives us the right to live over them? We are the ones that wage large scale wars, kill animals needlessly (like the seals. Cows for food and stuff is fine), cant live togther nicley, and generally screw up the planet for everyone else. I think the majority of humans in the world deserve to live less than animals.
Because some people still think we are the devine creation after the model of god himself. Religion is quite a strange thing.
Posted: 19 Mar 2006, 01:18
by hilal
Posted: 19 Mar 2006, 03:13
by Sheekel
Das Bruce wrote:And thats any less unplesant than being eaten by a predator?
No, but the fact that its such a slaughter...an orca doesnt devour half a species in a year!
(yet)....MUAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!

Posted: 19 Mar 2006, 07:54
by Caydr
Ew. Bloody seal, bleeding all over the place.
Makes a nice coat though.
Maelstrom wrote:And why is a human worth more than an animal in the first place? What gives us the right to live over them? We are the ones that wage large scale wars, kill animals needlessly (like the seals. Cows for food and stuff is fine), cant live togther nicley, and generally screw up the planet for everyone else. I think the majority of humans in the world deserve to live less than animals.
I'm going to go step on a cat, and it's your fault because you pissed me off. How's that for preventable suffering, biatch?
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/seal-phoque/myth_e.htm <<< Reality, for whenever you choose to make your next visit
Ignorant foreigners... eager to grapple onto any halfassed story that gets mass-sent to their inbox by highschool dropouts and hippies that think everything is ice cream and lollipops and anyone who does different is a monster. Just because an animal is cute doesn't mean it's more worthy of life than any other animal.
This so strongly reminds me of a petition that a bunch of Canadians tricked like 2 million americans into signing which would render the use of "bihydrogen monoxide" in food preperation illegal in canada. As if we'd care what a bunch of randomly selected americans think anyway. Ohh! A scary with more than 1 vowel! It must be EVULLL! OhhH! A cute puppy-like animal that's used for food and clothing - not unlike our own usage of the less-cute cow! HOW EVIL!
Hey, check it out moron! Ever heard of veal? Those are ACTUAL infant animals being slaughtered, but they ain't cute so it's fine for you.

<<<still alive
Good god, I wish the lot of you would learn to read, then learn how to vote, then close this topic.
Posted: 19 Mar 2006, 10:04
by SwiftSpear
I've seen videos of them bleeding live cows to death hung upside down like that. They just grab a razor and puncture the jugular and let the flow fill up barrel after barrel. Apparently it's common practice in the cattle slaugtering industry.
Posted: 19 Mar 2006, 23:48
by Sheekel
i have no problem with the cow thing. We gotta feed people somehow.
Posted: 19 Mar 2006, 23:57
by Drone_Fragger
Yes. I mean, if we didn't have slaughter houses, where would the meat come from taht we could conveintly touch on all the good food so taht vegitarians can't eat it?
*coughs*
What I meant to say was, those seals deserved it. They breathe and shit all over the place, increasing global warming. Its a little know fact taht the first expedition to the north pole never returned because they all slipped on seal shit and broke there backs.
therefore, seals deserve to die.
Posted: 20 Mar 2006, 01:38
by LathanStanley
notice..
when you kill something it bleeds...
it dosen't matter what it is, it bleeds.. its NOT PRETTY...
animals kill animals, for protection, security, food, and sport...
humans are just intelligent sentient animals... but we are STILL animals...
its life, thats the end of it...
if you can't deal with blood, you can't deal with life...
if you can't deal with life, you need to go take your tiny little sheltered butt and go hide somewhere in a hole and have everything sent to you from a mail order catelog....

Posted: 20 Mar 2006, 07:36
by Caydr
Sheekel wrote:i have no problem with the cow thing. We gotta feed people somehow.
Hey, guess what - cows don't really survive too well in permafrosted, constant -30 celsius
northern Canada. Luckily there's fish and seal.
People piss and moan because some adult white and furry animal is used for food and clothing but don't give a damn when it comes to ordering veal. Make a random guess why it's so tender. IT'S BECAUSE THE DAMN ANIMAL IS SLAUGHTERED LIKE 2 WEEKS AFTER IT'S BORN, WITHOUT HAVING SO MUCH AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FROM IT'S 2X2 FOOT ENCLOSURE.
Posted: 20 Mar 2006, 19:47
by Drone_Fragger
LathanStanley wrote:notice..
when you kill something it bleeds...
it dosen't matter what it is, it bleeds.. its NOT PRETTY...
animals kill animals, for protection, security, food, and sport...
humans are just intelligent sentient animals... but we are STILL animals...
its life, thats the end of it...
if you can't deal with blood, you can't deal with life...
if you can't deal with life, you need to go take your tiny little sheltered butt and go hide somewhere in a hole and have everything sent to you from a mail order catelog....

Done that. Didn't work. couldn't find the adress "Hole in my backyard".
Posted: 21 Mar 2006, 12:48
by GrOuNd_ZeRo
Why don't they just shoot seals in the head if they want to kill them so badly? oh wait, that's right, guns are outlawed by the communist state that is Canada, maybe not, but soon anyway with those rampant liberals.
The reason I condemn seal slaughtering is basically because they are killed (and horrifically so) for their FUR not their MEAT, they aren't eaten!
Posted: 21 Mar 2006, 23:53
by Caydr
GrOuNd_ZeRo wrote:The reason I condemn seal slaughtering is basically because they are killed (and horrifically so) for their FUR not their MEAT, they aren't eaten!
Really? Says who, besides people like yourself who've never even been to Canada or witnessed a seal hunt?
Be nice -mod
Guess what, those sensational stories you get told about by anonymouse emails? They're just a tad askew from the facts. Here's another news flash: you can't get a free iPod by hitting a ninja on a flashing popup ad.
Do you know how fish are killed? If they don't die a many-hour-long death from slow oxygen deprivation, they die when the knife grinds through their spinal tissue. By the way, I'm willing to stake my paycheck on the fact that there are more endangered species of fish (hundreds?) than species of seal (none?). I also bet that theres a few more fish dying every minute than seals. But why should we care about fish, they don't have puppy-dog eyes and soft white fur, so obviously they don't feel pain or terror as they slowly die.
Seal on the other hand are given a single blow to the head, crushing the brain and/or spinal cord, killing the animal instantly. Which is more callous, more inhuman, more brutal? Did you even look at the pictures of cows I posted? I guess they also don't matter - they aren't cute enough. I'll keep on naming animals that are treated inhumanely until the moment they die until you
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Posted: 22 Mar 2006, 20:49
by Drone_Fragger
I'm with Caydr on this. Even though I've never been to Canada, or anywhere near it (unless the shitty airport services at Los Angeles count, 1 customs officer for 2 FRICKIN 747'S FULL OF PEOPLE? WTF? ARE ALL AMERICANS SO STUPID AS TO HOPE THAT 600 PEOPLE COULD GET THROUGH CUSTOMS WITH ONE BLOODEY OFFICER? IT TOOK US 4 BLOODEY HOURS AND EVEN THEN THE DIM SHIT DIDN'T STAMP IT RIGHT.)
Seriously, killing seals with a quick blow to the head is a lot better than some animals die. Turtles are lifted to a height of 50 feet by birds and dropped on to rocks, where they have there insides eaten. 'Tis a slow painful death.
Also, I discard any "Emails from caring strangers" i get, Becuasse half of them are stupid things like "GET THIS SITE CLOSED DOWN"(Like the Bonsai cats website, which was a practical joke) even though the FBI, PETA and other organisatiosn have investigated them, and the other half are things like:
SAVE TEH DAMN "insert animal here" BECAUSE THEY ARE... um... PRETTY, Or something simlar!!!!1111eleventytwelve
Even though that animal just happens to be a pest and happens to eat native species and help make other animals extinct. (some barsted sent me an email saying how I should help save possums. Wtf? Possums eat kiwi eggs, tuatara eggs, any type of bird egg, chews through bark in trees, killing them andws through telephone wires. Great idea dumbass, I might as well pay someone to sprinke Cyanide in a rare bird park feeding trough)
Posted: 22 Mar 2006, 22:49
by unpossible
animals eat other animals and as far as i'm aware they don't ask permission or care if the prey is afraid or finding the situation painful.
Go clubbing, you'll love it

Posted: 23 Mar 2006, 01:21
by SinbadEV
Wait... I though tuatara were fictional...
/me looks it up... guess not... must be like the tanuki... or wolves and foxes for that matter...
Posted: 23 Mar 2006, 01:43
by SwiftSpear
If we're talking about the inuit killing seals in canada then they have been surviving off seal death for generations. Inuits traditionally use seal for virtually everything, they eat the meat, make the fur into clothing, and use the fat for more functions then you would think fat is capable of fulfilling. The current seal hunters are probably alot more wasteful then they used to be but that seems to be the case in every hunting situation around today. In todays sociaty of excess there isn't enough supply in hunting to develop industries around animal processing, and there isn't enough demand in hunted game to use every part of the animals any more.
Posted: 23 Mar 2006, 04:06
by SinbadEV
I mean, when was the last time you ate pig knuckles?