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Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 10:03
by Tired
I believe that you're a hypocrite. Oo

Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 10:04
by hrmph
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Damn! You guys got more beef than a steak :o

Seriously though, atleast Forboding is putting some effort into making the TA Spring community a better place. Not only producing maps but a helpful tutorial.

Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 10:08
by Tired
Which is appreciated, hrmph. His maps, or most of them, still worked after the recent patch as well.

I've always considered it a service to slap people when they're being stupid. If nothing else, it helps them vent stored up anger. Everything that I say - most especially the insults - are said with humor at the forefront. Forboding hopped into the room all bitter about something or another and jumped over people that he wanted to be quiet with very similar terms to those that he objected to. How will he benefit from the stiffer rules and penalties that he now champions? oO

Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 10:22
by Forboding Angel
would at least attempting to act mature be too much to ask?

I don't consider postling links to hampster porn sites good #main material. Then again, maybe it's just me.

Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 11:08
by Tired
Judging from the laughs I got, to include subsequent duct taping comment laughs, I would conclude that it is just you. Even NOiZE, though he qualified that he could see why another mod might kick for that, said that he himself likely wouldn't. oO

Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 12:35
by SwiftSpear
I don't think backseat modding and provoking shock humorists to action is acceptable #main behavior.

I'm not permamuting people because of something they did in chatlog either, and mutes can only be applied temporarily because of the way they are structured (they are extreamly easy to dodge). Forboding if you have the priviledge of playing spring then you have the priviledge of saying what you want in #main, and if you mess one up you mess both up. We're not looking for ways to ban people for virtually nothing.

I expect people to know better then to try to uphold the rules for the mods. I've seen it before and I'll see it again, backseat modding almost always leads to flamewars and way more work for the mods to clean up in the end. If someone is bugging you then either you need to ignore then and go do something else, or if you honestly feel it's something that deserves moderator attention PM a mod and report them. The chat log I see here is a VERY 2 way argument and the evidences both sides are presenting was directly provoked by the other side.

As a mod I see troublemaking and provoking troublemakers as two sides of the same coin. If I was going to level dicipline on any comunity members for this event I would be leveling it both ways.

Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 13:52
by mother
I don't think any 'non-troll' could argue that Tired isn't a troll.

It trolls in defense of its trolls.

OTOH I think if I hear SS say 'backseat modding' again I'll start twitching. Getting angry with the people for trying to maintain a modicum of decorum, because you are not, my lord. You're acting like an incompetant cop caught being incompetant.

Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 15:04
by Forboding Angel
well before we had mods, we couldn't do anything except warn. Ya know before I disagreed on having set rules, but now I can see the wisdom in having them.

it's a little upsetting to just sit by and let links to tubgirl and hampster porn and whatnot go by without saying something. I didn't post the worst of it.

Sorry for even caring.

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 00:26
by BigSteve
Now now boys... lets all put the handbags down and go back to our nice warm comfy chair and play a game of spring with your good o'l pal stevie from england - turn those frowns upside down y'hear!
oh yer...
12:31:46 AM] <Felix_the_Cat> heavens to betsy, I'm offending the ladies.
That I can say is catagorically... the best saying I have ever heard... ever...
Heavens to betsy - awesome lol

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 01:47
by Kixxe
A flame war started without me being involed? :o

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 02:31
by Tired
More like an alternative kinda love, Kixxie. =)

Honestly, mom, a few sodomite jabs, and you're ready to throw the dress store at me! You're the one that made your screen name - take some pride in, err, yeah....

Anyway, as Swift has (shockingly, I might add, as the application of logic is a rare and wondrous thing to behold) pwned us all here with his Mad Ninja Skillz, I request that this thread be locked before we all get banned for sodomy... err!, I mean trolling. ~~

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 03:03
by smoth
Tired wrote:Not being very constructive now, are ya? oo;

Speaking of toilets, you're the potty mouth that pointed out that I use multiple accounts: Tired 298 hours, Silver 100+ hours, Kyrie 50+ hours, Jose (original account - screwed up somehow after the .setmyrank business) 30+ hours = 478+ hours and counting, not that it matters, I suppose. oO

As for helping the community, I seem to recall test running a few of your maps back in the day, not that that's worth as much as creating them (which is worth a lot less than modding, which is worth a lot less than working on the engine itself), and, tweaking aside, do everything within my limited knowledge to help people find basic resources on technical issues and teach people how to actually play the game itself - something that you could use. When shall I schedule your lesson? =D

As to the difference between muting and banning, it seems as though your moldy, bitter, troll trolling, worm-ridden arse is going for anything that it can get.

Don't forget to put more smilies in your next whine column - makes people think you're not sitting there stewing in your impotence.^^
quoted to keep your words intact...indeed... troll...

How about this buddy, I am a modeler, mapper, texture artist and programmer. While I know you may not have the mental capacity for half of these skills drop your pad o' random insults and pseudo-witty comebacks and think maybe, just maybe you trolls are being over then line?

Maybe the fact that we have 3 people actively trolling and generally testing the moderator where they can to alleviate their boredom pisses the rest of us off. Maybe, the constant barage of of rubbish that you and your cohorts atempt to pass off as conversation is inapropriate. People can read it as plain as day, I told you that you can take your immaturity to a private channel and talk about whatever you want but you people could not do that.

It is a game to you I understand, I know that some kids ride on that sort of garbage. Hell, I love how you try to act civilized in the forums and act like a complete tard in main chat. It makes me want to hug you until your lungs burst and you ceast to breathe... but that will not solve the problem you obviously seem to be the most intelligent of the three of you so why is it that you three procede to in an organized fashion attack deci and forboding? Both of which give alot to the community? I would love to hear it.

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 03:14
by Tired
Smoth, I've refrained from saying this in the past as I have heard about the work that you've put into Spring (not so much what, but that you have), but, given that you're clearly too dumb to realize that it takes two to tango....

Is that honestly your real picture? I mean, you look like an angry muppet! oO; Calling someone else a "tard" with a face like that? Ha! =D

Please note that there's nothing particularly "civilized" about any discourse held between troll and troll troll, in these forums or elsewhere. If you're under the impression that I got a mod to come down on my side in any way, then I suggest that you reread Swift's post, which calls all of us down for immaturity, which I've never argued against. To me, given that I have better than average skills in written communication, chatting in a lobby with like-minded players (and we all at least have TA in common) is a part of being in the community is both an entertainment in and of itself, and a welcome breather between games. While engaged in silliness, I and your other "trolls" are present to field a lot of questions from new users that you'll likely never see nor care about, so it's curious to me that letting "bygones be bygones" doesn't work for you.

My kind of immaturity, sir, leads to fart jokes and fond head-shaking. Yours leads to the Spanish Inquisition, and that you're taking everything that I've said here so seriously proves it!

Good day sir.

You smell. 8P

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 03:27
by mother
Whoa that last post grew by 4x with editing!

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 03:29
by smoth
Tired wrote:Smoth, I've refrained from saying this in the past as I have heard about the work that you've put into Spring (not so much what, but that you have), but, given that you're clearly too dumb to realize that it takes two to tango....

Is that honestly your real picture? I mean, you look like an angry muppet! oO; Calling someone else a "tard" with a face like that? Ha! =D
I am just quoting what was your origonal post... but the
Tired wrote: You smell. 8P
bears repeating. :P

and my avatar is not an angry muppet.

*EDIT*
but while I am at it... here is an avatar for you... provided you can work an image editor:
Image

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 03:31
by Tired
And when the feth did I ever attack Deci? oO

And my post still says all of that. Better muppet now, btw. =)

And mom, as self-noted, you love the power of ghey! Where's the problem? oO

Editing*3. =)

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 03:38
by Das Bruce
Stop being a troll Tired.

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 03:40
by Tired
I will if those present will as well. Gimme a minute - I'll edit and mess them up again. They hang upon my every word, you see. =)

And mom, "The Feebles" was so awful that even most British people won't admit to having seen it - if you must be Cow based, try the Far Side: Image

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 05:25
by SwiftSpear
mother wrote:I don't think any 'non-troll' could argue that Tired isn't a troll.

It trolls in defense of its trolls.

OTOH I think if I hear SS say 'backseat modding' again I'll start twitching. Getting angry with the people for trying to maintain a modicum of decorum, because you are not, my lord. You're acting like an incompetant cop caught being incompetant.
He is trolling, but I doubt he would be if this thread wasn't still here. He barely ever even used to post on the forums. I haven't been on lobby recently because of midterms so I haven't been able to assess how widespread the problem is. Back in the day Tired was a model spring member and a great guy to play with. But it seems now that there's active moderation in the forums and everyone is lobbying thier own case in terms of what rules should be enforced and who should and shouldn't be banned, and of course everyone is up in arms against eachother for everything because of it. I'm frustrated that people are asking me to ban spring members with 400+ playing hours because they got in a fight with them over thier conduct on client. If conduct is that disturbing to you report it, pointing it out or asking things to change without a position of authority is just going to get them biting at your coat tails. If you tell any able blooded american how they should be behaving there's a 90% chance they will do the oppposite because that's just the way they are.

Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 05:50
by smoth
awesome muppets all around... now if I can get forboding to do one :twisted: