Spring RTS Engine

SinbadEV wrote:

Fuel wrote:Nice.
You mention "exhibiting a pattern" and "correct his behaviour".
Shouldn't we call the Nazi regime back?
Oh my god, this is awful.

This is a free video game trying to protect its players from negative experiences... not a national government committing genocide.

Fuel wrote:You too don't have anything to say about the topic itself and the facts, that Tarellina and Paste abusively used their admin power for no real reason?

I was speaking in general terms... It just happened to relate to your particular case so I posted it here.

"you were speaking in general terms"
Please don't try to pull back what you said earlier.
Do you have any idea what this post is all about?
Or you just jumped in just because is "yet another bastard complaining"-like post?

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muckl wrote:if u cannot realize it, ur just to dumb (srry)
that u can sleep good tonight:
reason:
[17:01:48] <Andrei80> i just wonder how would [LOeT]Tarellina got admin rights

[17:02:58] <Andrei80> someone told me I shall always post admin abuse on forum...

[17:03:33] <Andrei80> [LOeT]Tarellina with admin rights you are +10000 more annying

Do you have a limited vocabulary or the only things you can do is copy and paste conversations?

Can you have your own opinion or your own words, you know like a conclusive phrase maybe?
Since you call me 'dumb'.. Are you that dumb?

You posted 3 phrases there. I don't see any kind of insults or anything like similar in that.
For N-th time, why was I banned for exactly?
Why all this shitty treatment on my post?

Fuel wrote:Or you just jumped in just because is "yet another bastard complaining"-like post?

This.

I was responding to people complaining about people complaining (not you) here when there really isn't anywhere else for people to air their grievances.

I'm not going to say I'm on your side because I have no personal experience with your reportedly disruptive behaviour but I do feel like there should be some recourse for you in situations when you feel you are being mistreated.

I feel these public complaints are bad for the community not because you are complaining but because nothing ever seems to be done to resolve the issue... well... except when you get forum-banned when you get frustrated and start getting abusive... but that's more of an additional symptom than a solution.

You know... that or I'm a passive aggressive troll.

SinbadEV wrote:

Fuel wrote:Or you just jumped in just because is "yet another bastard complaining"-like post?

This.

I was responding to people complaining about people complaining (not you) here when there really isn't anywhere else for people to air their grievances.

I'm not going to say I'm on your side because I have no personal experience with your reportedly disruptive behaviour but I do feel like there should be some recourse for you in situations when you feel you are being mistreated.

I feel these public complaints are bad for the community not because you are complaining but because nothing ever seems to be done to resolve the issue... well... except when you get forum-banned when you get frustrated and start getting abusive... but that's more of an additional symptom than a solution.

You know... that or I'm a passive aggressive troll.

So you did jump in with conclusions, calling names on my 'behavior', without having no understanding of what exactly happened.

Not a single logical / common-sense comment / discussion on why Tarellina kicked me twice out from the battle, nor why did Paste banned me for exactly.
Or why did 'muckl' ban my accounts.

Fuel wrote:So you did jump in with conclusions, calling names on my 'behavior', without having no understanding of what exactly happened.

Not a single logical / common-sense comment / discussion on this topic.

I was referring, in general terms, to the category of player you are purported to fall into. Perhaps there is a disconnect between my ability to express myself and your ability to not take things personally.

People "SEEM" to "THINK" you are "AWFUL"... so when you make snide/insulting comments about another player (or in this case an admin) you are banned without warning.

Now... perhaps you are only perceived as awful because you are willing to speak out about the constant abuse that you are subjected to... and as such, I feel that having some kind of means of resolution available would make the BA community more welcoming to people who are similarly abused but remain silent to avoid the kind of public shaming your posts invariably incite.

Your write nice long phrases.
Again, you didn't have any understanding of what exactly has happened.
You called me names right after you saw the topic name (see your first post).

Let's summarize this topic up:

There is practically no objective reason why
1. I was bullied (Tarellina kicked me twice out of the battle for fun)
2. eventually banned (by Paste) AND
3. my accounts deleted.

There was absolutely no conclusive answer / comment / opinion on this topic.
Majority of the comments here bullied and insulted me.

It's all because on Spring hosts, there few questionable people happen to have admin rights.

You really know how to attract more players to Spring with this childish behavior.

I do not see reason for kick or even ban in the log.
There is just some loling/trash talk but from everybody.
[LOeT]Tarellina even started it with the story about taking photos of the plumber who changed washing maschine. [LOeT]Pastor goes along with it, too.
But then Andrei80 gets kicked because "this is not the place for trolling"?
So will we get to see pictures of the plumber or what?

knorke wrote:I do not see reason for kick or even ban in the log.
There is just some loling/trash talk but from everybody.
[LOeT]Tarellina even started it with the story about taking photos of the plumber who changed washing maschine. [LOeT]Pastor goes along with it, too.
But then Andrei80 gets kicked because "this is not the place for trolling"?
So will we get to see pictures of the plumber or what?

Bullied, insulted, kicked, banned, account ban.
All this and I didn't even see the pictures of the plumber.... :)

thanks for actually reading the log.

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muckl wrote:what is a "account ban" exactly?

not having the privilege to see Tarellina's photo with the plumber?

Moved into Game Lobby.

tl;dr.

Afaik all the 'admin abuse' threads came from precisely two people and my opinion, for what's its worth ... go figure.

Silentwings wrote:Moved into Game Lobby.

tl;dr.

Afaik all the 'admin abuse' threads come from precisely two people and my opinion, for what's its worth ... go figure.

Not going to comment about your assumption here.

The important thing is, you too don't have comments on the actual facts?
The fact that I was kicked by Tarellina and banned by Paste for no reason?

Silentwings wrote:Moved into Game Lobby.

tl;dr.

Afaik all the 'admin abuse' threads come from precisely two people and my opinion, for what's its worth ... go figure.

Not going to comment about your assumption here.

The important thing is, you too don't have comments on the actual facts?
The fact that I was kicked by Tarellina and banned by Paste for no reason?

I can bet you don't have any idea what happened. You like other two people here just make assumptions and jump into conclusions.

If you care, read the log after line 2916

knorke was the only person which did that.

Silentwings wrote:Moved into Game Lobby.

tl;dr.

Afaik all the 'admin abuse' threads came from precisely two people and my opinion, for what's its worth ... go figure.

Too bad those two(or one?) people are idiots themselves. This way the legitimate part of their message isn't taken seriously.

klapmongool wrote:

Silentwings wrote:Moved into Game Lobby.

tl;dr.

Afaik all the 'admin abuse' threads came from precisely two people and my opinion, for what's its worth ... go figure.

Too bad those two people are idiots themselves. This way the legitimate part of their message isn't taken seriously.

thanks for the kind words, klap

again, assumptions, insults, and nothing to do with the facts.
I don't think you have an exact idea of what happened.

the usual behavior :)

knorke wrote:I do not see reason for kick or even ban in the log.
There is just some loling/trash talk but from everybody.
[LOeT]Tarellina even started it with the story about taking photos of the plumber who changed washing maschine. [LOeT]Pastor goes along with it, too.
But then Andrei80 gets kicked because "this is not the place for trolling"?
So will we get to see pictures of the plumber or what?

thanks for actually reading the log.
if anyone else cares, you can get an idea after line 2856 - 3157

http://pastebin.com/15j1Um8D

It would be nice to have a table somewhere of number of complain per host per hour-game-played so newbies who join spring know a bit about the reputation of the host and know where to go if they don't want to deal with admin who kickban player just to train admins skills.... or whatever.

At least even if they have to play on those bad host, they are aware that migrate to other will solve the pb.

It could be nice to place a direct link in the main channel.

Of course someone with that is known as impartial would have to make that count...

[Spads] and [x] would probably be the best but I am not sure tera would be the worse since it should be ranked per hour-game-played... so probably a threshold of a minimum of game (50?) should be used

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