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Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 17:57
by Tim-the-maniac
Posting about spec cheaters on the forums seems like a pretty good way to combat it (Lion hasn't been back?).
I'm just surprised no-one complained when the thread was locked for no reason.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 18:49
by Carpenter
Why would anybody complain anymore anyway? Complaints about everything have been heard, nothing's changing. Everyone here on the forums is just messing around and not really giving a shit and why would they? Spring's yesterday. :)
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 07:34
by MidKnight
Cheating subverts the game unless cheating is part of the game.
Creating altered executables and spoofing CRC32 bashes is a lot more difficult than making a spectator player.
It also has a much higher potential for causing havoc.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 08:49
by PicassoCT
I can win by desync. Its easy, just push a litle butterfly towards the enemy, and after half an hour they are stunned standing around and you can kill them off one by one.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 21:42
by Neddie
Carpenter wrote:Why would anybody complain anymore anyway? Complaints about everything have been heard, nothing's changing. Everyone here on the forums is just messing around and not really giving a shit and why would they? Spring's yesterday. :)
Actually, complaints are heard and useful. We do act upon many of them, but there is the perception that complaints are ignored because particular complaints or demands are made repeatedly, to excess. See the requests for ELO or ladder or TASC in the installer or in regards to smurfs. I'm glad people complain, because complaints bring up emergent issues so they can be treated.
Tim-the-maniac wrote:Posting about spec cheaters on the forums seems like a pretty good way to combat it (Lion hasn't been back?).
I'm just surprised no-one complained when the thread was locked for no reason.
I don't know why the thread was locked, but social tools are often the best ways to manage these sorts of things.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 00:47
by albator
Neddie wrote:Carpenter wrote:Why would anybody complain anymore anyway? Complaints about everything have been heard, nothing's changing. Everyone here on the forums is just messing around and not really giving a shit and why would they? Spring's yesterday. :)
Actually, complaints are heard and useful.
Really ?
Any actions have been taken against lion or is he still an admin ?
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 01:53
by Neddie
He was a moderator and I don't know. We would have to talk with him about the situation in person and I haven't caught him online yet.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 02:02
by AF
Neddie wrote:He was a moderator and I don't know. We would have to talk with him about the situation in person and I haven't caught him online yet.
:
Reporter: Will Britain be declaring war on Nazi Germany for their attrocities?
Churchill: We heard Hitler was massacring the jews and running rampant over Poland, but we would have to talk to him first and ask him about things first, and we just haven't been able to get a hold of him, the secretary at the SS bunker says he's out for lunch
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 09:09
by momfreeek
lol. perhaps a tad overdramatic
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 12:22
by albator
Neddie wrote:He was a moderator and I don't know. We would have to talk with him about the situation in person and I haven't caught him online yet.
And what do yo expect to head from him ?
He denied when he was told he cheat then he raged and never came back.
Not doing anything is what actually bring exasperation to poeple and show that anywone can cheat without any consequences
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 12:49
by BaNa
I find it interesting that you are portraying lion in such a light without posting *some* proof. Please post a replay or something that you feel validates your conclusions, because without it your words come off as a personal attack.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 13:55
by albator
BaNa wrote:I find it interesting that you are portraying lion in such a light without posting *some* proof. Please post a replay or something that you feel validates your conclusions, because without it your words come off as a personal attack.
There was a post with some proofs. It has been locked. I would like to know why an admin locked that post btw ? It is cause it was an admin involved ?
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 14:46
by PicassoCT
This has gone long enough, lets use the silencer.
You know that spring is open Source. It may come a suprise to you, but anyone, means anyone, can take it, and write additions for it. So if you grab a C++ Tutorial, and draw some plans, and ask some devs, you can write something to prevent cheating. A widget to put specs before important attacks into matrix-mode for about 3 mins, or ... whatever. You are free, no longer slaves to the company, this aint EA, were your time can be spent in endless rant. This is spring time, so grow into it.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 15:23
by zwzsg
The problem is more than Spring is free for cheaters to grab the source and implement their cheats.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 16:58
by momfreeek
albator wrote:He denied when he was told he cheat then he raged and never came back.
Suspected cheater ousted by community!
albator wrote:Not doing anything is what actually bring exasperation to poeple and show that anywone can cheat without any consequences
Eh? I thought he was ousted? If he's not here, further action seems moot.
If he comes back mods can talk with him and take action if necessary. He is/was a mod so presumably they can have an adult conversation without a drama surge (this ability being a job requirement).
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 21:41
by [KO1]Makita
Spec cheating is a valid strategy.
Not my fault you don't have any friends to spec cheat with.
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 22:29
by smoth
[KO1]Makita wrote:Spec cheating is so embarrassing
Spaghetti fell out my pockets
I came and started farting
wut?
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 22:35
by Johannes
[KO1]Makita wrote:Spec cheating is a valid strategy.
Not my fault you don't have any friends to spec cheat with.
Neither had Lion actually, just 2 computers with different ips iirc
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 22:47
by PicassoCT
2nd computer counts as friend
Re: Protection against cheaters
Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 08:21
by MidKnight
PicassoCT wrote:2nd computer counts as friend
