Re: Faster than light?
Posted: 14 Apr 2011, 19:40
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There's lots of experiments like that, and they always work the same way: You make waves:dansan wrote:Years ago I saw a documentary where they made _information_ move faster than light with the result that the music (the transmitted information) arrived at the receptor _before_ being sent. I'll try to find the documentary and post it if I do.
Please don't argue with me about it until then - I really cannot remember much of it, and will not defend it in any way :)
Einstein was proved wrong on several counts. Most famous being:SpliFF wrote:I get the feeling this is a case where science simply deferred to Einstein due to his fame and the difficulty of proving him wrong (rather than requiring him to prove himself right).
Dude, you don't need a gravitational lense to slow down light, just take a pool of water or a glass! This is a common misunderstanding of physic really says. c is not the speed of light, it's the speed of light in vacuum.SpliFF wrote:Also I heard this has been debunked already due to evidence of light being slowed by gravitational effects.
Meh, that is easy. All you need is two very precise clock along the track of the object.SpliFF wrote:I'm still waiting to hear of an instrument capable of detecting faster than light objects.
Unless there's been some recent advance I'm unaware of, I wouldn't call wormholes "known". They're still a fancy sci-fi theory. More sounds than most, but still highly hypothetical.Licho wrote:The only known way to move macroscopic objects at higher than light speed is wormholes and changing topology of spacetime.
You need the particle to be close to entangle them, and particle can't move faster than light, and you can't choose which state they'll untangle to. So, what exactly is going faster than light? As I understand it, it's more about how you can open two boxes at same time very far apart, and surprise they'll contain the same thing, even if no one could guess beforehand what this thing would be. So that is still useless for any FTL application.Licho wrote:And of course entanglement action happens at higher than light speed too..
Are you talking about the Miller-Urey experiment? It produced organic material from inorganic material by simulating lightning (plasma a different state of matter that can derive energy from light: http://www.plasmas.org/what-are-plasmas.htm ) through a mixture of gasses. It produced amino acids and some more recent experiments have produced nucleotides. It was also found that organic molecules can be found in space when scientists discovered a meteorite in Murchison , Australia. I don't know a whole lot about this topic even though I've studied physics. We didn't really go into quantum physics or talk about space science.zwzsg wrote:Meh, that is easy. All you need is two very precise clock along the track of the object.SpliFF wrote:I'm still waiting to hear of an instrument capable of detecting faster than light objects.
Note that usually, to measure the speed of light, we make it go back and forth several time between mirrors, so it travel more, and takes longer, and it's easier to measure. Also, technically we don't just briefly switch on a flashlight, but instead use a laser, for its directionnality, its coherence, its singleness of frequency, and then we look at interference between the ray and its reflexion.
Hmm, well, what I wanted to say is that yes, we built instruments capable of measuring speed faster than light. You might have to get a coherent blob of that thing first, but eh, coherent blob of matter can be experimentally produced already.
Not referent to any reference point within it. One side is going close to the speed of light away from us, and the other is going close to the speed of light in the opposite direction, but if you were to go to either of those points the opposite point is only going close to the speed of light away from it. That's just how relatitivity works.dcore221 wrote:the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light if that counts?
I always thought that it was neat how time is warped when an object goes really fast.AF wrote:As mentioned before, wormholes would produce timelike curves.
A documentary I watched also claimed any wormhole would almost instantaneously collapse due to exponential feedback of energy, energy goes in, energy goes out, energy goes back in ontop of the first time ti went in, energy comes back out again, repeat.
Ah yes... I've read about that. But it wasn't what I meant. The experiment was about something similar to quantum tunnelling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-tha ... nelling.29). But I didn't really understand it xDzwzsg wrote:There's lots of experiments like that, and they always work the same way: You make waves:
And then you look at them sideway: