Spring RTS Engine

Directx is not superior to openGL, but microsoft makes sure that most developers use it.

Hoi wrote:Directx is not superior to openGL, but microsoft makes sure that most developers use it.

I read one place that DirectX is easier to make stuff in but much less powerful because of this.

...I run spring in linux and windows. I expect my GPU to handle anything and everything thrown at it without issue. That is why I have not bought anything from ati/amd since my 3450. I have loved my 9500gt, 9800gt and GTX 460 to death, I have not had a single driver issue.

I generally run everything maxed out, most lighter or older games I run on 18xQ or 32x AA at 60FPS smoothly, even BC2....The only games I have struggled to get AA on in are crysis and metro 2033. Crysis still runs maxed out at 1080p. I love my 460.

I was just suggestion you upgrade to something a little more future proof, the 5*** series is notoriously bad at quite a few IQ related things...

jK wrote:totally not true!
NVidia is cheaper, faster and has better drivers! Check recent benchmarks!

Is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 faster than a hd6850 ?

Machete234 wrote:

jK wrote:totally not true!
NVidia is cheaper, faster and has better drivers! Check recent benchmarks!

Is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 faster than a hd6850 ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011 ... ,2673.html
(great atifanbois are even too lazy to ask the internet for benchmarks ...)

So the answer is nope and again its hard to like nvidea when you get 5% percent more for 20Ôé¼ less with ati.

ATM if you only play spring dont get any card unless you have a very old one.
If you play other stuff as well or only get ATI.

uhhhhh, The GTX 460 smokes the 6850....No clue what you guys are talking about. Overclock a 460 and watch it jump to 6870 performance.

Before someone tries to claim the 6870 will comeback when overclocked, it wont make a very signifigant difference, ati scales poorly with clocks, and the gpu itself does not clock well.

So that evga GPU was stock out of the factory, my vanilla GTX 460 runs another 50mhz higher, so yeah, it will pretty much wipe the floor with anything within 100$ of what I payed for it.

I have absolutely no clue where you guys get the idea that ATI is superior.

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evg ... 795-2.html

Different levels of experience, attention and time invested in research.

Machete234 wrote:So the answer is nope and again its hard to like nvidea when you get 5% percent more for 20Ôé¼ less with ati.

Check the tomshardware benchmark again. The 460 costs less and performs better or the same as the 6850 esp. because ALL cards on the market are overclocked (650MHz versus 700-850MHz), so benchmarks with the reference ones are not comparable (-> the crappy benchmark linked by dcore).

Neddie wrote:Different levels of experience, attention and time invested in research.

Yeah, fanbois are just `limited`.

It's the truth, 460/560 are terrific cards. I'm the last person who'd say this if it wasn't true.

ATI was depending on the 6xxx series being a die shrink to 32/28nm, shit happened, it's still at 45nm, here we are today. They're competitive at the low and high end, but in the middle there's no beating NV right now.

Instead the die shrink is happening later this year for both ATI and NV, not to mention AMD and Intel. Early 2012 is going to be the best time to buy a computer in history.

Actually I would say the middle end is AMDs strongest point at the moment. The 6950 is pretty much uncontested in its price slot, the 560 is fast, but not as fast stock (but ofcourse in a much lower price bracket).

Once you get into gf110 range nvidia starts to kick some ass, the GTX 580 is still unmatched in single gpu performance, it takes three 6970s to compete with two 580s. The 570s are also great. I would say the 590 is odly meh, though, then again most people that want that kind of performance would buy two 570s or 580s as they are overall better then ANY dual card solution.

But yeah I actually quite like the 6950.

6950 1GB's a solid card too, yeah. 2GB's nice but only for very, very high resolution (over 1080p), at which point chances are the video card won't be able to run fast enough anyway.

that site is good, scores are estimated from multiple systems to give an average - 5025 samples on the gtx460 gives a better representation of the true power of it rather than a single test system that might have been setup to favor one way or another

dcore221 wrote:that site is good, scores are estimated from multiple systems to give an average - 5025 samples on the gtx460 gives a better representation of the true power of it rather than a single test system that might have been setup to favor one way or another

5025 samples with a single benchmark
versus
1 sample on ~15 benchmarks

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