Spring RTS Engine

First, I'd like to apologize for the tone of my post, but not the content. I was upset at something totally unrelated that night. You know what they say: don't rage and post.

knorke wrote:http://springrts.com/wiki/Lua:WidgetDirectory
whats that?
fail and broken. replace with link?

THIS. This link was broken. I know how to use Google folks. Take a look at my search results. It's actually on the second page, but why am I using Google to find something that should be on the site page?

Third, the reason that I raged is that SD doesn't have the functionality I like, and SL just won't work on my computer. When I come to the forum with a question and suggestion like "where are widgets/can we make them easier to find" I don't feel a response like "download and use a different lobby" is appropriate. I think the sarcastic passive/aggressive tone of it is what caused my rage. It's comments like these that make me less likely to use a product, because in a community this small when a project dev might be one or two people, I can directly relate a person to a project. And how that person comes off affects what I think of the product. You know even huge companies like Apple have this problem, right? There are thousands of people worldwide who won't buy Apple just because they think Steve Jobs in a jerk. How about "did you know that SD had a built-in widget downloader?" That plugs your project, tells me of a feature that I didn't know existed (which I didn't) and says it in a direct manner.

tl;dr Sorry for the rage but lay off the sarcastic comments about my lobby because it doesn't fix the initial problem of the post and makes you seem like a jerk.

Should be a quite simple task to turn SD's widget downloader into a standalone application. It should be even working on Linux since the GUI is not very complicated compared to current SD. Probably only worth the effort if spring devs really want to include it into the installer.

Also it is quite easy to make the website show stuff like comments/ratings.

If anyone is interested, you can find source code (website and SD) in CA-repo, feel free to PM me at any time if questions arise.

Niobium wrote:Why not just use springdownloader? Because its crap, ironically because it tries to do / includes too many things, such as the widget manager.

It's crap because it does "too" many things? How do you decide how many things is too many? Some lobbies have single player as well as multiplayer. Are they crap for doing too many things? Maybe lobbies should only let you join games and autohosts and not have that extra feature of hosting your own game, because that's more things. Where is the academy that decides when a program does too many things? What's the optimal number of applications a newb should have to download when they join Spring? 3? 5? Obviously 1 is bad and gives you the right to call other people's work crap.

CarRepairer wrote:

Niobium wrote:Why not just use springdownloader? Because its crap, ironically because it tries to do / includes too many things, such as the widget manager.

It's crap because it does "too" many things? How do you decide how many things is too many? Some lobbies have single player as well as multiplayer. Are they crap for doing too many things? Maybe lobbies should only let you join games and autohosts and not have that extra feature of hosting your own game, because that's more things. Where is the academy that decides when a program does too many things? What's the optimal number of applications a newb should have to download when they join Spring? 3? 5? Obviously 1 is bad and gives you the right to call other people's work crap.

Every time I start SD for something I end up having to manually kill it with CTRL ALT DELETE after it takes it upon itsself to stop responding and use a ton of CPU on something I didn't ask it to do. So yeah I'd also be in favour of an independent or integrated lightweight widget tool.

@Mav, The Widget Database has ALWAYS been called the Widget Database. Not the Widget Library.

It's not our fault for you mis-searching google.

Also, don't be a nub Everyone knows that the widget db is at springinfo, why didn't you just go there?

I didn't even know it's existence and I have been playing for 4-5 years :O