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mar3moset wrote: Most of what you state is accurate but comparing to other labs like a CORE vehicle lab versus an ARM K-bot lab or vice versa the ARM lab will make short work of even the most hardy CORE tier one K-bot builds I have witnessed, even when the CORE tier one K-bots are supposedely the CORE's tier one stong point (I think) was set to be K-bots. (If Im wrong correct me.) But yeah their vehicle on vehicle lab is quite balanced excluding some differences with their engineers.

But when it comes to K-BOTS on VEHICLES ARM will sweep away most CORE K-bot attempts with Flashes considering their cost is low and can be produced quickly enough in the early game to rival the numbers of K-bots, considering the CORE Storm's projectile may be effective but if it misses the initial shot then the storm is out of luck, so possibly the Rocket Launcher k-bots on both sides could get their projectile speeds increased or have a faster reload speed at the cost of their range.

You can't try to compare different factories on opposite factions. Kbots aren't meant for charging through the front lines like tanks are(warriors being a possible exception), but even still they are more ore less balanced. You talk about how the strom is underpowered because if he misses he has a long reload - That's the POINT, every unit has very prominent advantages and disadvantages, storms are not meant to be able to stop a bunch of gators/flashes, they're for harrassing, not steamrolling everything.

In T1 each faction has damage-absorbing units, speed units, range, scouts, general purpose skirmish units, etc etc. The purpose isn't to make perfectly parallel unit categories for each faction, because that's very boring and removes a lot of the variety and choice between factions, especially in T2.


Also, you fail to mention that Core has arguably the best spam unit in the game - the AK. And no, T1 kbot is not Core's strong point, it has no scout and no tough tank unit, of which arm has both.

mar3moset wrote:

JohannesH wrote:Who are you mar3moset, and why should anyone count on you to have any significant understanding of this game?

I've stated alot already haven't I? Besides the names Anonymous & John Doe were already taken, I'd rather be judged based on the Information I post rather then based on who I am.

It matters since anybody can post their first impressions on the game and some fancy stats to back it up. But every random noobs opinion doesnt have alot to do with the reality of how the game plays.

I'll take your take on BA balance seriously when you can consistently beat me with your OP builds.

This thread is full of crap. Arm is clearly superior, because you have marky+sniper = OMFG SHIT MY UNITS R DYING, u have all terrain paralyzer and rocket bot, you have razorback, you have beamers and dragon claws (t1 lightening! wtfpwn!), flash and stumpies, panthers wich can fuck up your base OR your fighter shield (lighten zaps from ground to airplanes, amazing how arm science turns the world around!) Also arm has nuke bomber, emp bomber, emp missile, maverick which is a gangster, penetrator, and pretty much every unit is a piece of epic win cake.

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet cos every1 keeps writing big blox of text but

stumpy>raider
raider+drones!>stumpy

:O

drones!

O:

drones Grrrrr...

I kind of liked going air and just pushing with comcapture + drones a month ago. People have figured it out though and started spamming aa. :(

urgh drones....

Tribulex wrote:This thread is full of crap. Arm is clearly superior, because you have marky+sniper = OMFG SHIT MY UNITS R DYING, u have all terrain paralyzer and rocket bot, you have razorback, you have beamers and dragon claws (t1 lightening! wtfpwn!), flash and stumpies, panthers wich can fuck up your base OR your fighter shield (lighten zaps from ground to airplanes, amazing how arm science turns the world around!) Also arm has nuke bomber, emp bomber, emp missile, maverick which is a gangster, penetrator, and pretty much every unit is a piece of epic win cake.

Arm I think has more variety, and it's also a bit more noob friendly(not to say core is better for people who don't suck though), which is why it's played so much more than core. But core has it's pwn stuff too, morty's are a favorite of mine, and the amphibious hl bot is pretty pwn on water maps, way better than pelicans which are basically t1 units.

But yeah mavericks, snipers, and spiders = win.

Restore the Flash to its days of Glory!!!
increase maxvelocity by 4%.

+1

whiny fanboys wrote: its not imba, its balancing

no, you are stupid and the stumpy/raider imba is stupid

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:

whiny fanboys wrote: its not imba, its balancing

no, you are stupid and the stumpy/raider imba is stupid

NO U

Fido is a god unit but it has a very narrow role. My stats says it has 40% more experience at death than average combat unit.
Of course it's usually quite a pointless unit because fatboy and sniper are pure ownage, but it's most fun to micro.
Maybe the ON button should be high traj. and more AoE.

For stumpy/raider my stats says that stumpy have 5% more exp. at death and leweler has 30% more and janus has 15% more.

I'm going to try using Fido when I can. I guess I don't even look for it anymore because I'm so used to ignoring it.

Pako wrote:Maybe the ON button should be high traj. and more AoE.

made so many posts about it, tfc haaaalp!

Anybody tried using the Fido/Mav with an auto-skirm widget? Perhaps it'd be more useful if it was automatically trying to stay at a safe range and whatnot.

Pako wrote:Fido is a god unit but it has a very narrow role. My stats says it has 40% more experience at death than average combat unit.
Of course it's usually quite a pointless unit because fatboy and sniper are pure ownage, but it's most fun to micro.
Maybe the ON button should be high traj. and more AoE.

For stumpy/raider my stats says that stumpy have 5% more exp. at death and leweler has 30% more and janus has 15% more.

Do you use some kind of widget? Can I has? I want to run it on a batch of replays :)

Attempting to explain questionable balance using questionable logic is unquestionably funny

Forboding Angel wrote:Attempting to explain questionable balance using questionable logic is unquestionably funny

Is there a game balance or logic concerning game balancing, that is not questionable though?