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Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 22:40
by PicassoCT
zwzsg wrote:Unless the green stripe is drawn by Lua, that's never gonna look like that ingame except when the camera is placed at one perfect unique point.
True, if you move the camera you see its faked, breaking the ilusion... but the only working alternativ is to let the orbitals ring vannish in foggy atmosphere, clouds hiding its beginning and end, preferable over ocean (difficult to guess the distance over water).
I hate the let the ring vannish beneath the surface, i never understood how people could see that as realistic even in a shooter, were you dont get the camera moved that mutch in relation to the skybox.
Another problem is that atmospheresky.. usually the more air the light wents thru the more lighter colour the blue. Thats why directly above you a summersky looks darkblue, and lightblue-whitish on the horizon. Now on a Orbital, the "Lookintospace" comes as a O-shape above you, and on both sides (if you dont hide it behind cheap oh,so specialenergyshields)
I given this some thought zwsg, and found the foggy skxybox the best Solution, sorry to not beeing able to lua moar into it.
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 22:47
by zwzsg
PicassoCT wrote: but the only working alternativ
No.
You can draw the rest of the ring with Lua, you can do the rest of the ring with a feature model, ...
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 22:55
by Pxtl
... that's a really big feature.
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 23:09
by PicassoCT
another example
I would have won, but the Halo blockxed my views, and then the mastarchievmind flew in and combombed
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 00:01
by Jazcash
I never thought I'd see the day when PC gamers accept Halo into their lives.
/me faps to Halo.
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 00:25
by PicassoCT
U fap to wat? A canned mushroom with an suicidal AI (nobody sane would get into that suit) and rebornagain Aliens who resist the fanboiflood?
- The-One-Ring2.jpg (42.64 KiB) Viewed 2089 times
This will be a cultured Orbital after all..
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 07:46
by Argh
Awesome concept map. A bit concerned over the buildings- it'd be better to use World Builder or Features, imo, they just won't look right as they are, imo, due to resolution and stretching. As for water, that's a real puzzler, I agree. You can use Typemaps to keep movement to 0 in the area, but it's kinda out've the current scope of the engine.
Drawing the remainder of the Halo with Lua should be possible. It'll clip when it hits the upper limits, but there are several ways to make that go away. Building it into the skybox is probably not ideal.
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 16:38
by AF
Couldnt you bundle a gadget that makes the units slant according to where on the curve they are so you end up with gravity always perpendicular to the curve and not the flat map base? It would work upto a point after which you'd need to meddle with min max slope tolerances on the fly
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 18:06
by Pxtl
... I think trying any attempt to make the map "fake" being flat everywhere is doomed to fail. There will be tons of warts, and it will just confuse the players. Better to enjoy it as it is.
The map is shaped like a hammock, and should play as such, regardless of what it is meant to represent.
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 01:33
by PicassoCT
well finnished typemap and will bundle in a feature+ texture and empytskybox into the map, so if somebody wants to do it, he can do it..
iamwatchinstargateuniverse rightnow and itsgreatdrama and could do completely without thesciencefiction. just drop a crew into a oldsub and voila, could even just be bioshock, the scenario is - replacable, otherwise it is great, just lacks the usual main enemy, which escalated stargate durin the series always into a warzone..
man i am tired, and man will the bug-board get complains about my map screwin the physicks
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 01:46
by AF
As great as your maps are, theyre more just art, because they are so visually confusing and chaotic, its hard to figure out what the terrain is like, and where we can, its too distracting
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 01:55
by PicassoCT
moar boredomline? well, thx AF, but i will stick to the art
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 01:59
by AF
Not at all, Im not asking for boredom, it is possible to have a work of art that can actually be played on =p
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 20:19
by PicassoCT
Using Weaver (Praise be upon him)s GROUT i pulled it off to put this monster together, size currently is 40960 pixxxxxxxxls 6144 heigh- here is metallmap + minimap.
It was one of this poasts, wait, searching, that was the music-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfHBPusZg6E
and here are the lyrics...
ARGH wrote: Anything you can do,
ARGH can do better.
I can do anything
Better than you.
Smoth: No, you can't.
ARGH: Yes, I can.
Cadyr: No, you can't.
ARGH:Yes, I can.
KDR11: No, you can't.
ARGH:Yes, I can,
ARGH:Yes, I can!
Anything you can be
I can be greater.
Sooner or later,
I'm greater than you.
GOTA:No, you're not.
ARGH:Yes, I am.
LORD: No, you're not.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
SWIFTSPEAR:No, you're NOT!.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
Yes, I am!
ARGH: Anything you can mod
I can balance better.
I can balance anything
better than you.
GOTA:No, you're not.
ARGH:Yes, I am.
LORD: No, you're not.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
SWIFTSPEAR:No, you're NOT!.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
Yes, I am!
...
ARGH:Anything you can say
I can say longer.
I can say anything
longer than you.
SpringComunity: No, you can't, because you will tire.
ARGH:Yes, I can, because i have trained that ability.
SpringComunity:No, you can't because we will install a textwallfilter.
ARGH:YES I CAN, when it comes to words i am superman, ranting more than Cadyr on Adds can.
SpringComunity: TL, DR!
...
ARGH:I can rewrite any source.
SpringComunity: Without bein' lawnsuited?
ARGH:Sure.
SpringComunity: That's what I thought--jailbuster of codecopypasta!!
...
SpringComunity: Can you make A.I.?
ARGH: No.
SpringComunity: Neither can I.
(Not aimed at you AF, just for the Rhymes sake)
...
ARGH:Any Skybox you can do, i can lua finer.
I can paint anything
Higher than you.
PICASSOCT: No, you can't. (Photoshooped)
ARGH: Yes, I can. (FeatureinaBox)
PICASSOCT: No, you can't. (Rendeered)
ARGH: Yes, I can. (Blending seemless)
PicassoCT: No, you can't. (Shooped&Rendeered)
ARGH: YES I CAN. (Spining background)
i will add a orbital-less skybox and a modell+texture, we will see who leaves the ring alive..
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 21:19
by KaiserJ
its beautiful
but i still wish for it to be ringworld.
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 21:48
by PicassoCT
fine, it is ringworld, but i shrinked it, while it was in the washer spinning right round, because the water was to hot. Happy now..
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 17:51
by 1v0ry_k1ng
PicassoCT wrote:Using Weaver (Praise be upon him)s GROUT i pulled it off to put this monster together, size currently is 40960 pixxxxxxxxls 6144 heigh- here is metallmap + minimap.
METALL.jpg
It was one of this poasts, wait, searching, that was the music-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfHBPusZg6E
and here are the lyrics...
ARGH wrote: Anything you can do,
ARGH can do better.
I can do anything
Better than you.
Smoth: No, you can't.
ARGH: Yes, I can.
Cadyr: No, you can't.
ARGH:Yes, I can.
KDR11: No, you can't.
ARGH:Yes, I can,
ARGH:Yes, I can!
Anything you can be
I can be greater.
Sooner or later,
I'm greater than you.
GOTA:No, you're not.
ARGH:Yes, I am.
LORD: No, you're not.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
SWIFTSPEAR:No, you're NOT!.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
Yes, I am!
ARGH: Anything you can mod
I can balance better.
I can balance anything
better than you.
GOTA:No, you're not.
ARGH:Yes, I am.
LORD: No, you're not.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
SWIFTSPEAR:No, you're NOT!.
ARGH: Yes, I am.
Yes, I am!
...
ARGH:Anything you can say
I can say longer.
I can say anything
longer than you.
SpringComunity: No, you can't, because you will tire.
ARGH:Yes, I can, because i have trained that ability.
SpringComunity:No, you can't because we will install a textwallfilter.
ARGH:YES I CAN, when it comes to words i am superman, ranting more than Cadyr on Adds can.
SpringComunity: TL, DR!
...
ARGH:I can rewrite any source.
SpringComunity: Without bein' lawnsuited?
ARGH:Sure.
SpringComunity: That's what I thought--jailbuster of codecopypasta!!
...
SpringComunity: Can you make A.I.?
ARGH: No.
SpringComunity: Neither can I.
(Not aimed at you AF, just for the Rhymes sake)
...
ARGH:Any Skybox you can do, i can lua finer.
I can paint anything
Higher than you.
PICASSOCT: No, you can't. (Photoshooped)
ARGH: Yes, I can. (FeatureinaBox)
PICASSOCT: No, you can't. (Rendeered)
ARGH: Yes, I can. (Blending seemless)
PicassoCT: No, you can't. (Shooped&Rendeered)
ARGH: YES I CAN. (Spining background)
i will add a orbital-less skybox and a modell+texture, we will see who leaves the ring alive..
I would pay many dollars for a day in your head
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 18:59
by PicassoCT
Once in, you would pay all the dollars of this world, to get out, i promise you that...
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 00:59
by PicassoCT
I promised myself for the new year, no longer to piss of the Realismluvers. It just isnt right, and i should by now grown out of it to troll people with maps they hate, no more childish, sickening behaviour. I promise.
Ooops.
Also happy new year everyone!
Re: Well Halo there
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 06:59
by Argh
Lovely concept
I may reference it when I get back to working on Cloud City.