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Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 00:34
by Sefidel
JAZCASH wrote:Where's the lobby you said could avoid bans, mutes and all the rest of it?

if i do that they will simply ban users of my lobby client. its not feasable for wide scale use.

btw my app features a news ticker that is fed by a controlled channel. so moderators will be able to type messages in that room and associate a hyperlink with it. think simcity style scrolling .

im considering integrating ca downloader, or alternatively hosting maps and mods on my servers.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 00:49
by Olemars
Sefidel wrote: also id like to add colored fonts, which would work by adding a <red> tag before your text. this would be limited but could be integrated into the lobby easily, the problem is it would reflect badly for other lobbies, so think about integrating it elsewhere plz
Oh god no. Colored text is generally not desired in a chat client (or even more abominable - adjustable font size). I can imagine it already:

someidiot>JOIN MY GAME 4V4 DSD NOW!!! NEED 7 MORE
someidiot>JOIN MY GAME 4V4 DSD NOW!!! NEED 7 MORE
someidiot>JOIN MY GAME 4V4 DSD NOW!!! NEED 7 MORE

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 01:06
by Jazcash
Yeh, plz don't introduce colours.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 01:19
by Sefidel
look colors sell. the reason people dont use spring is because they join tasclient/sl and they think they have reached some irc chatroom from 1985. Im trying to make a client that sells to those individuals that are easily fooled by fancy graphics.Im thinking about newb retention anyways.

As far as colors go, i cant do it unless the other lobby devs do it, and if aegis is cool with that part of it. , so it is unlikely. I can only make so many requests for changes without becoming annoying, so ill stick with my channels request. (hint hint). its really not a speed issue its a convenience issue.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 02:21
by AF
No, you replace the hidden commands with buttons. How else do you think msn and that work? By making the forward slash commands multicoloured?
  • It appears slow
  • UI resizing looks liek it will be a nightmare to handle
  • You chose to use cusotm graphics for backgrounds but again its very inconsistent
  • Battlehub had a channel listings that used buttons for each channel with icons and split them into categories, it loaded fast, and it handled hundreds of channels. Its doable, and its not hard
  • Your welcome to spring bit should be dead center not offset
  • Its visual basic
While pretty gfx are nice, I think this is best only for fullscreen, if something runs in a window it needs to fit in with the rest of the GUI, otherwise if the lobby IS the whole GUI, change all the buttons and styling as much as you want.

In the meantime, goodluck

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 02:29
by [TS]Lollocide
People also forget that Sefidel's computer is made of valves and is powered by coal.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 02:43
by el_matarife
Caradhras wrote:Well, if it does not run on Linux it fails.
Springlobby is 100% fine for Linux and I get the sense those guys would be much happier developing only for Linux since they don't even run Windows on a daily basis as far as I know. A Windows Lobby made on Windows for Windows users only makes a lot of sense to me, especially if it uses Windows only APIs / technology like WPF.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 04:01
by Sefidel
1. the UI is easy, i am simply over laying graphics. to minimize and maximize it simple stretches the tables because they are locked on the sides. also the abckground image is 2000 x1000. the functionality of minimizing and maximizing is still handled by the windows function, not some jank thing i did.

2.vb is easily fast enough for waht i am doing. people hate on it buts its fine for this type of application.

3.as far as channels go, its not recieving the channels that sucks, its parsing each one since its a guessing game . there are just too damn many of them.

4. its slow cause its debugging, and as anyone who uses .net will know, debug.trace will cut your application speed terribly. also theres some exception handling goiing on in the video .

5. speed is not an issue, there is very little that needs to be done to speed it up

6. if this project is successful ill wrap it in mono and do something for linux etc.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 04:18
by aegis
the lobby I have a working beta of in private development has everything split into modules in logical areas - gui code is completely abstracted from the protocol code is completely abstracted from the engine handling code...

so I can write a qt gui, a wpf/win32 gui, a gtk gui, wx gui, cocoa gui, etc...

thus far I have working gtk and wx guis

also, it's really fast.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 05:55
by Beherith
Sefidel wrote:the reason people dont use spring is because they join tasclient/sl and they think they have reached some irc chatroom from 1985. Im trying to make a client that sells to those individuals that are easily fooled by fancy graphics.Im thinking about newb retention anyways.
+1

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 12:26
by Caradhras
Beherith wrote:
Sefidel wrote:the reason people dont use spring is because they join tasclient/sl and they think they have reached some irc chatroom from 1985. Im trying to make a client that sells to those individuals that are easily fooled by fancy graphics.Im thinking about newb retention anyways.
+1
+1

So, if it runs fine with mono, why not. Good luck!

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 12:43
by zerver
That looks really good, only I don't like people who name their software after themselves in on way or another.
So, if you want my endorsement you'll have to rename it. You should not use "Infidel Client" either :mrgreen:

Depending on if your project is successful or not, consider using:
High Fidelity Client
Low Fidelity Client
No Fidelity Client

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 12:45
by Caradhras
What about CastroLobby? Image

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 13:24
by Sefidel
i was thinking of renaming to "BetterClient" :) suggestions welcome, preferrably with a little more flair than tasclient and springlobby.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 13:48
by Jazcash
Hmm, I can fix you up some nice buttons for the UI if you pay me in cookies.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 13:50
by Auswaschbar
Sefidel wrote:i was thinking of renaming to "BetterClient" :) suggestions welcome, preferrably with a little more flair than tasclient and springlobby.
FlairLobby :roll:

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 14:08
by Jazcash
Lol Lobby to match Regrets UI!

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 15:35
by Forboding Angel
Auswaschbar wrote:
Sefidel wrote:i was thinking of renaming to "BetterClient" :) suggestions welcome, preferrably with a little more flair than tasclient and springlobby.
FlairLobby :roll:

I'm sorry, your 27 pieces of flair is the bare minimum. DO you always want to be known as the one who does just the bare minimum?

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 22:02
by Neddie
I think you should find a 2D/Pixel artist.

Also, just have the coloured text seem so to the person who types it. That makes everybody happy. Either that, or permit users to filter all text from a usergroup to a particular colour, as in the other lobbies, and give local settings primacy.

Re: SefiLobby Preview

Posted: 19 Apr 2009, 22:05
by Jazcash
neddiedrow wrote:I think you should find a 2D/Pixel artist.
Me ^_^

http://s141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/jazzcash/