Spring RTS Engine

you could also join the CA team :p (need texturers/modellers) to make an original mod which is based on TA (but is nothing like it)

but if you dont want to its cool.

http://www.caspring.org :p

Otherside wrote:you could also join the CA team :p (need texturers/modellers) to make an original mod which is based on TA (but is nothing like it)

but if you dont want to its cool.

http://www.caspring.org :p

>_<


nice modell, i liek the idea of a mod for old/low-end -pcs

A cute little baby Sturmtiger. Definitely a very nice model.
Since that thing looks very much WW2 inspired, you might want to check the Spring'1944 mod. We could always use another texturer...

Thinking of making a Steampunk-esque mod, with gratuitous amounts of cheesy lines and oscillating ray guns which go PEW PEW. You get to battle Moon Men and their Moontech, perhaps joining forces with your comerades from the USSR, all for the greater good of mankind.

Think

Love it.

But yeah, Spring's animation system is horrifying. For humanoids, you'll probably want to talk to other modders that already have a humanoid and filch their script.

That, and spring is a resource whore - I'd want to do some tests of Spring on low-spec processors before investing time in a portable mod. Does spring even run on non-X86 chipsets? Didn't the new floating-point math stuff blow away compatibility on very old X86 chips?

SPRKH one of the factions in CA has steampunkish artstyle :]

Otherside wrote:SPRKH one of the factions in CA has steampunkish artstyle :]

The one you've made no steampunkish models or units for, and is entirely composed of robots anyways.

Seriously, I love CA, but saying that Logos is steampunkish is a bit of a stretch when 90% of the Logos models are just Mr. D's slightly-heavier-metal-looking remakes of the OTA Core stuff.

pxtl the concept art is steampunkish and bots/air are suposed to be in that style but they havent been remade yet.

Its a lack of modellers/texturers. Mr D's models are used because they are nicer than the originals and are of a very high standard :p. So someone who could do steampunk models/textures would be awesome to have on the dev team :D

SPRKH: if you want a basis for your human scripts, PM me with what kind of behaviors they'll have. I scripted the infantry for S44, which includes a bunch of stuff like prone/crawling/walking/running/aiming moving/ect ect. You probably don't need all of that, but I'm happy to lend a hand adapting them to whatever you put together.

Uh, yeah alpha maps are supported, I thought you splitted the turret and base up into 2 seperate uv's or something

MidKnight wrote:I'm pretty sure spring could run a small (IE darkside) map with a low poly/unit mod in low detail pretty smoothly. Can anyone confirm? CarRepairer's ViaC7M?

Run? No. Walk, then crawl.

Pxtl wrote:Love it.
Does spring even run on non-X86 chipsets? Didn't the new floating-point math stuff blow away compatibility on very old X86 chips?

Yes, see above.

Pxtl wrote:

Otherside wrote:SPRKH one of the factions in CA has steampunkish artstyle :]

The one you've made no steampunkish models or units for, and is entirely composed of robots anyways.

Seriously, I love CA, but saying that Logos is steampunkish is a bit of a stretch when 90% of the Logos models are just Mr. D's slightly-heavier-metal-looking remakes of the OTA Core stuff.

Oh yeah? Build a Kettle (geothermal powerplant). And feast your eyes on THIS MONSTER! (Although the style I'm going for is more of an independence day style ufo, see how the steamy steam cannon in the back is good for when it's chased by gunships.)

Pxtl wrote:That, and spring is a resource whore - I'd want to do some tests of Spring on low-spec processors before investing time in a portable mod. Does spring even run on non-X86 chipsets? Didn't the new floating-point math stuff blow away compatibility on very old X86 chips?

I do not know the ways of your X86 chipsets speak, but "my" aim would be to have a game which would run decently on your average library/school/uni desktop. I think the minimum requirements for TA Spring represent one pretty well; 1GHz CPU, 512 MB RAM, Onboard video/audio with a desktop resolution of 1024x768. So the magic would be having a decent framerate using those specs. I think having lower-than-usual poly meshes, low-res textures (128^2 avg. at 8-bit depth, except maybe for ground planes), a limited max. amount of units, minimal use of particle effects, blob shadows and so forth could get it pretty close to ze goal.

/e Spring engine requires a 64 MB video card? I am a sad panda. - Is it possible to use software rendering?

Nemo wrote:SPRKH: if you want a basis for your human scripts, PM me with what kind of behaviors they'll have. I scripted the infantry for S44, which includes a bunch of stuff like prone/crawling/walking/running/aiming moving/ect ect. You probably don't need all of that, but I'm happy to lend a hand adapting them to whatever you put together.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

/e Spring engine requires a 64 MB video card? I am a sad panda. - Is it possible to use software rendering?

It used to run fine on my old GeForce2

Are the spec/gloss/glow maps then stored per RGB channel, and the alpha in the... alpha channel?

RGBA -> glow (as in self-illumination), spec, env. reflection, 1-bit alpha

Although I heard that some idiot (no offense but this is retarded!) revoked the changes to the unit shaders so that spec and glow are combined in the green channel again while the blue channel remains unused.

You can, however, write your own GLSL shaders and invoke them from a Lua script, which essentially means that you can do what ever you want to do with your texture 1 and 2, if you happen to know anything about shader languages that is.

They usually don't put video cards in library/school computers.

spring runs on integrated graphics, albeit you need to turn down the settings

My old computer (5 years old, LOW END Intel gfx (8mb of mem taken from ram iirc), p4 2.GHz) ran spring on low settings, with pretty big battles around 20-30 fps. This is playable, very low end, old system. Most likely the average library comp.

With some optimizations and smaller scale battles i think this could work. Go for it!

P.S. That model is pretty awsome for such a low skin size.

Yeah want to put the emphasis on smaller, manageable battles and simple game play with less micro (you can hate me now if you want to, your anger cannot penetrate my reinforced concrete defenses). Also considering having a "fixed" camera, similar to the one in Red Alert 2, just to tick everybody off.

Do It i will help you if you need help Later :) with balance,gametesting,effects.

I love it!

The texture size is such that it crosses the 'low-rez texture' line twice and becomes pixel art. It's honest-to-god 3D Pixel Art! AWESOME!

How long did it take to make by the way?

You should probably put some art to one of KDR's designs, possibly even the Cuberor's finest...