Spring RTS Engine

faceless wrote:While having a break in texturing the previous wip.

This time i want to try create a high poly version, then bake textures and normals to low poly. Hope it will work as i expect it.

Great model. I just love the Arm design.

that's...
...amazing...

Unless you get someone to rewrite the specular, reflection and self-shadowing shader, to take normal maps into account, I wouldn't go highpoly at all.

smoth wrote:looks neat I just hate the arm design.

true!
the arrm the shoulder the leg the foot are awfull ...
but the gun and the torso are greats !
trash the legs and stick some wheels !
and a little prude :hide this nude slim biceps !(or show all )

emmanuel wrote:

smoth wrote:looks neat I just hate the arm design.

true!
the arrm the shoulder the leg the foot are awfull ...
but the gun and the torso are greats !
trash the legs and stick some wheels !
and a little prude :hide this nude slim biceps !(or show all )

You might not want to listen to this.

rattle wrote:Unless you get someone to rewrite the specular, reflection and self-shadowing shader, to take normal maps into account, I wouldn't go highpoly at all.

I am hoping this would ease a little uv unwrapping and texturing and maybe baking ao would give nice results too. I know nmaps are not implemented in spring
Arms will be probably changed a little, legs just tuned up, i like their general design (which, btw, is not visible on this render).

Blender's AO bakes are useful but unless you model in Blender it's a pain to set the model up.

faceless wrote:I know nmaps are not implemented in spring

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Oh wow wow thats really amazing.

Its great, fantastic, wonderful to have you working on CA models.

But a few design crits (these may be problems with the origional concept sketch too, so not your fault).

It looks perhaps a bit beefy, especially for the AK. You may consider slimming it down on the arms and legs especially.

The eye slit could do to be bigger, its nice if the eyes are a feature of the unit to add character.

Hard to see from this angle but the hollow pieces in the legs are not very long, the 'knee' is meant to slide up and down that section when it animates, in order for the legs to move fast enough to keep up with the AK's actual speed (fast!) and increase the range of motion. The pivot of the legs also doesnt look centred below the centre of mass.

But great work, we'll definitely use it even if you dont fix the crits its a great model.

Saktoth wrote:But a few design crits

REVENGE wrote:You might not want to listen to this.

faceless wrote:While having a break in texturing the previous wip.

This time i want to try create a high poly version, then bake textures and normals to low poly. Hope it will work as i expect it.

VAST improvement

AF wrote:

faceless wrote:While having a break in texturing the previous wip.

This time i want to try create a high poly version, then bake textures and normals to low poly. Hope it will work as i expect it.

VAST improvement

good texture raise lowpoly model to highpoly style and or special efect,
bad texture waste evry model ;

emmanuel wrote: good texture raise lowpoly model to highpoly style and or special efect,
bad texture waste evry model ;

Captain Obvious to the rescue.

I remember someone who did exactly the opposite... someone who was immune to reason...

cay.....

dr

no texture is always better than bad texture :(evo?)
but no textured unit can hav bad .3do color too ...

Evo's units aren't that bad. Simple textures are worse than full art textures, but they are preferable IMO to nontextured units.

SwiftSpear wrote:Evo's units aren't that bad. Simple textures are worse than full art textures, but they are preferable IMO to nontextured units.

i think evo will be better without texture :
evo unit are bad for me ,
but i taste badly too for pure & gundam ,
so its not the opinion of the thousand of those buyed the toys and movies,
but i see the texture pure & gundam are great not evo,
for me evo is a good game with bad units models and bad textures ,
the game of a modder player not of a unitdesigner ,
i dont think same for gundam its an unitmaker (maybe player) same for s44 & starwar
pure unitmaker modder but not player !
i can name EE having unit designer
polaris have unit codder not designer
if only all this specialist was in a team for working for spring and not for personnal ...
they are gifted by the dev but dont have gratitude ...
kind of demon

emmanuel wrote:

SwiftSpear wrote:Evo's units aren't that bad. Simple textures are worse than full art textures, but they are preferable IMO to nontextured units.

i think evo will be better without texture :
evo unit are bad for me ,
but i taste badly too for pure & gundam ,
so its not the opinion of the thousand of those buyed the toys and movies,
but i see the texture pure & gundam are great not evo,
for me evo is a good game with bad units models and bad textures ,
the game of a modder player not of a unitdesigner ,
i dont think same for gundam its an unitmaker (maybe player) same for s44 & starwar
pure unitmaker modder but not player !
i can name EE having unit designer
polaris have unit codder not designer
if only all this specialist was in a team for modding for spring and not for personnal ...

The evo units aren't terribly well modeled either. They definitely won't look any better untextured.