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Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 16:42
by dizekat
Regret wrote:
dizekat wrote:list those apps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_po ... uter_games
lol, wiki got list of everything. Anyway, its a list of games that do not require installation.
Quoting from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_application
"Most software for Microsoft Windows is not designed to be portable. "
dizekat wrote:I say, someone who needs this feature should implement it in springlobby, and maintain it. Because implementing/maintaining a feature you absolutely don't need and never use completely fails.
That's the spirit mister developer!
uhm... that's not spirit, that's reality.
Do you maybe yourself develop something for free which you yourself don't ever use? Did you get it right and not bugged? And fix bugs in it?

edit: lulzors, springlobby has portable mode (when you have no config in home, and config alongside binary) and forces that on spring too. Never used that tho and didnt even know.

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 23:10
by smoth
dizekat wrote:
lurker wrote:Look at how many apps become portable by placing the config file next to the binary. It's a very clean and common method.
list those apps?
all the quakes, dooms, and many other games. It is only recently that people started putting shit everywhere.

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 05:35
by Forboding Angel
Regret wrote:Some people like everything in one place as opposed to spread out across whole hd. Also it allows for great portability.

^^ this man speaks wise words.

THe reason is, we don't want shit scatted all over our HD's and most of us think that vista's "Home User Dir's" is a total joke (which it is). All it does is muddle up what was once a simple process, and UAC is for noobs. Nuff said.

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 12:09
by dizekat
Forboding Angel wrote:
Regret wrote:Some people like everything in one place as opposed to spread out across whole hd. Also it allows for great portability.

^^ this man speaks wise words.

THe reason is, we don't want shit scatted all over our HD's and most of us think that vista's "Home User Dir's" is a total joke (which it is). All it does is muddle up what was once a simple process, and UAC is for noobs. Nuff said.
Then complain more to microsoft (IMO), perhaps they'll fix the issue at core.
Also: springlobby supports "portable" mode, if config is put alongside executable, springlobby keeps it there.

Some people prefer to have stuff somewhat organized by its purpose.
For example, my mobile phone is in my pocket, my mobile phone charger is together with chargers for mobiles of other family members.
Same goes for pretty much everything IRL. Warranty papers in one box, not glued onto items (though in that case would be better to have warranty papers be unnecessary).
Or, executables in one place, configuration files in another, so that you can easily copy just the configuration to another place, or backup it.
On Linux, I like that configuration is kept separate from executables. I can easily backup configurations (of all apps), or copy to new pc, or to new Linux install (of different distribution, with all programs updated).

"portable apps" problem is non-existent on Linux btw. For any app, it is easy to make a script that will set HOME and LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the place where its run, then put required libraries (dlls) with executable and you're set. On windows, i recall, theres software for doing that sort of thing (in a hacky way ofc because microsoft sucks).

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 18:02
by smoth
PARP

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 18 Jan 2009, 22:17
by Satirik
/C ... /config don't work

first they don't support "" ... it just cuts the wrong things and then without "" it doesn't take the cfg in count ... nice gonna remove the spring settings profiles from tasclient

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 19 Jan 2009, 03:53
by Forboding Angel
@dizekat, when ms fixes something it's generally something that didn't need to be fixed :-)

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 19 Jan 2009, 14:47
by Pxtl
The problem with testing writeability is that, when running Vista+UAC, it lies to the application. It says that Program Files is writeable.... but Program Files is actually a mix of Program Files and the user's VirtualStore directory, and any writes are written to the VirtualStore folder.

So if you intelligently do a "test first, then write", Vista will redirect those writes into VirtualStore. Took me the longest time to figure out WTF was going on until he explained it to me.

If Microsoft had any kind of consistency with their userland folders, it would be really cool to do proper compliant user-folders... but instead they have crazy, wacky shiat.

So, anybody know where the "datadir" setting is stored?

Re: springsettings.cfg

Posted: 19 Jan 2009, 17:14
by imbaczek
int the settings, key SpringData= (or similar.)