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Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 21 Jan 2009, 21:22
by BaNa
Diablo 2 == chronic masturbation

no need for the "or"

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 10:28
by Spawn_Retard
smoth wrote:Image

Sorry guys Teutooni just accidentally, your brains.
I think this is a real picture of Peet TBH. Of course, the shock face is when i probably pwnd his argument in #main

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 03 Feb 2009, 10:47
by erasmus

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 05:26
by Bartosh
sadly id say that games are probably responsible for the rise in A.D.D
and even if its not, its defiantly the reason people get bored so quickly now a days

probably not strategy games, but shooters and what not, really if you think about it, its like having a person use a reflex tester 3 hours straight with flashing lights and blaring gun fire there whole life.

there are hardly any games left that reward patience, and well thought out planing. basically the traits that make people successful in life.

although I suppose better reflexes in a combat situation would be invaluable, but jumping around randomly and fighting over who gets the rocket launcher probably wouldn't.

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 05:38
by Gota
Who knows...maybe rocket jumping will prove useful one day..

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 15:23
by Teutooni
Bartosh wrote:games are the reason people get bored so quickly now a days
probably not strategy games
Does not apply to spring. Proof: DSD. :P

Like the article on expert minds stated, experts do the correct decisions not because they patiently consider every option, but because they consider the right option immediately. I confess I do actually less thinking while playing than when I started. At least consciously.

Anyway, I was under the impression patience and planning will only get you so far, you need initiative and efficiency too. Especially in the job market. So imo fast-paced entertainment is not the sole reason for ADD. Headshotting can actually relieve stress. :P

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 16:17
by Gota
Well,isn't a shooter still better than watching some dumb program on TV?

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 17:05
by smoth
Bartosh wrote:there are hardly any games left that reward patience, and well thought out planing. basically the traits that make people successful in life.
MMOs require tons of patience for grinding and tons of planning to get the right speced out character. Saying that, I also submit that MMOs have no bearing if not a negative influence on the lives of their players.

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 17:47
by Gota
The time you actually spend thinking compared to the time you just press the same button combination and grind is huge...I bet the brain is more active during sleep than when you play an mmo..

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 17:54
by SpliFF
The researchers actually did some secret research for the US armed forces as well. They developed the following career table as a result:

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Top Secret USAF9874//df5-5

Game played           Military Role       Notes
------------          -----------         ----------
Spring                General             Superior command skills
Other RTS             Lieutenant          Good command, but poor judgement
Counterstrike         Sniper              Only effective with AWP
Flight Sims           Pilot               Flight systems must be bolted to chair
Vista Gamers          Kamikaze            Dumb but loyal. Obey all orders without question
Wii Games             Runner              The only gamers fit enough 
Guitar Hero           Spy                 Immune to torture
FPS                   Rejected            Incapable of teamwork
Console Games         Rejected            Too young
DOS Games             Rejected            Too old
MMORPGs               Rejected            Addicts
Linux Gamers          Rejected            Never played a game before

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 17:58
by lurker
Well I see someone has an XP fetish.
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Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 18:24
by Bartosh
People with A.D.D. have amazing puzzle solving skills, And A.D.D. (back in more hectic times) probably was invaluable when you had to have quick reflexes and a lot of energy to survive. Nowadays, were sitting quietly listening is the foundation of education, it is such a counterproductive trait, it is labeled a disorder.
And inarguably videogames are bad for kids with A.D.D., seeing as they run an extremely high chance of "getting Addicted".
I'm just wondering if the rise in people diagnosed with A.D.D. is part of a witch hunt, or if society can actually make a person have A.D.D.

Shooters vs. TV. hmmm├óÔé¼┬ª. I guess it depends, id say watching an episode of Nova is probably better than t-bagging some dude after you blow him away with a 12 gauge. but an episode of American Idle.. probably not.

MORPG are bad, not so much in mental impacts, but because they are an unhealthy way of filling peoples social needs (I guess like talking on a forum), ultimately worsening there real life relationships. Also they tend to be quite time consuming and highly ├óÔé¼┼ôaddictive├óÔé¼┬Ø seeing as how they use the exact same method of random rewarding actions as gambling. Plus id say MMORPGs are the only game people actually can get addicted to, which reflects poorly on the gaming community as a hole.

Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 18:34
by PicassoCT
You played the RTS.

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There is Balance in everything, the Lord gave, the Lord takes- even if you know you loose, could you give it up anyway? Pointless Discussion, but wait, if we could make Spring the Hype of the Year 2099, like GTA 23... no, sorry if you suddenly experienced high hopes for a second..
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Re: Strategy games & cognitive abilities

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 03:08
by Snipawolf
Responsible for ADD? Not a chance, I know a whole lot of people who hardly play games at all who look like they take methamphetamine on a daily basis.